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Anger as trees are chopped down at busy Southend roundabout

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THERE was traffic chaos leading up to a busy Southend roundabout as trees were chopped down to make way for a new £25 million regeneration scheme.

A stretch of the Victoria Avenue, Southend, dual carriageway was reduced to a single lane on Sunday leading up to the roundabout outside Southend Victoria Station, which was also partially closed to traffic.

This was to allow workmen to chop down several large trees.

The trees were removed as part of the £25 million Victoria Square regeneration scheme.

Anna Waite, Southend Council’s executive councillor for transport and planning, said: “We are extremely proud of this scheme, which will transform the entrance to Southend Town Centre.

“It will make it so much easier and more convenient for people to arrive via different forms of transport and get straight into the heart of the town.”

Residents spoke of their anger that the well established trees, some of which were about 30ft tall, had been sacrificed to make way for the regeneration scheme.

FULL STORY IN MONDAY'S ECHO

Comments(82)

bytheway says...
2:22pm Sun 10 Jan 10

Was Anna Waite weilding the axe herself?

fletch12107 says...
2:35pm Sun 10 Jan 10

Where were the Camp Blingers whilst all of this chopping down of trees was taking place?

Nebs says...
2:37pm Sun 10 Jan 10

Why not rent some temporary traffic lights, and put them in place for a couple of weeks. Then you could see how the traffic flows will cope with the changes.

stanleys mummy says...
2:54pm Sun 10 Jan 10

There is only one major thing in this town that needs chopping down and removing and that is anna waite and her band of followers! for god sake southend wake up and realise that this women is ruining our town! whats the point in having a nice entrance to the town when the majority of it is an eyesore? we have more yellow lines than parking spaces, and gradually more empty shop units than full ones.
Until this woman is voted out and someone who cares is elected, this town is just going to go further and further down..... there is so much potential out there, and so many good offers made, but no, southend council just dont want to know.

Horace Wimpole says...
2:59pm Sun 10 Jan 10

Hear hear Stanleys Mummy!

leighbloke says...
3:13pm Sun 10 Jan 10

fletch12107 wrote:
Where were the Camp Blingers whilst all of this chopping down of trees was taking place?
I doubt they knew about what was happening?
Did anyone else apart from the tree fellers and the police who were directing traffic(well I guess thats why they were there)?
I would like any councillor to let us now if they were informed. My guess is they had no idea of when this was happening.

perini says...
4:45pm Sun 10 Jan 10

This Waite woman is a menace - she's totally clueless and its about time she went!

msw_116 says...
4:59pm Sun 10 Jan 10

Yep, the trees being chopped down is a shame, but this is nothing compared to the ridiculous idea of removing the roundabout at Victoria Circus!

I predict complete chaos (even when complete).

westie says...
5:11pm Sun 10 Jan 10

Why are we still in a position, where we elect council officers to protect the interests of our local residents and then have to fight them for the length of their tenure to try and avoid their lies and wasteage?
Why do they act as our enemies?

keith mclaren says...
5:21pm Sun 10 Jan 10

Everything this Waite woman does leads to upset and total disagreement across the Borough. Please can Councillors (of whom I know there are some who share our views) arrange a vote of no confidence in the woman and get rid of her. Finally, will council staff and councillors please REMEMBER they supposed to act and are paid for by us and to act in our interests. Totally disgusted of Eastbourne Grove.

westie says...
5:21pm Sun 10 Jan 10

By the way, the camp blingers were there trying to stop the tree carnage.
But they had an appointment with the council for next Tuesday to try and stop the action. Without notifying anyone it seems, Anna decided to start on Sunday......

Soozie says...
5:31pm Sun 10 Jan 10

Anna Waite is about as useful as a chocolate teapot.

Thsi council won't be happy until there are no trees left in Southend.

Informed Resident says...
7:20pm Sun 10 Jan 10

Anyone who is really going to pass a serious comment on this story must ensure they have got their facts right! It’s only narrow minded people who choose not to see the real benefits of this scheme especially for the future generations of Southend. Could you imagine this town if no regeneration took place, the world is forever changing and progressing, surly it is better that Southend moves with the times and is developed for the future! There is no loss here with this scheme in fact there is only something to be gained, particularly with more trees being planted as part of this scheme, clearly I am the only resident who has paid any attention to information that has been communicated through the local media, advertising and the Council! For those of you that have commented on this story I’d like to ask one question, have you improved your home, maybe new furniture, a conservatory or extension perhaps – if so, then why did you do this? The answer is to improve and update your surroundings! Well this is exactly what is being done for our town!

firedog says...
7:27pm Sun 10 Jan 10

It is amazing that everyone can do things better than the council,until they try of course.I wonder how many billion trillion trees there are in England alone,have any tree huggers ever tried counting them? It might give you somthing to do on a sunny day.

Mary Lou says...
8:15pm Sun 10 Jan 10

Informed Resident wrote:
Anyone who is really going to pass a serious comment on this story must ensure they have got their facts right! It’s only narrow minded people who choose not to see the real benefits of this scheme especially for the future generations of Southend. Could you imagine this town if no regeneration took place, the world is forever changing and progressing, surly it is better that Southend moves with the times and is developed for the future! There is no loss here with this scheme in fact there is only something to be gained, particularly with more trees being planted as part of this scheme, clearly I am the only resident who has paid any attention to information that has been communicated through the local media, advertising and the Council! For those of you that have commented on this story I’d like to ask one question, have you improved your home, maybe new furniture, a conservatory or extension perhaps – if so, then why did you do this? The answer is to improve and update your surroundings! Well this is exactly what is being done for our town!
I have read all the pdf files containing the plans and proposals. As with all artist impresions it looks very nice. So did the pedestrianisation of the high street. A pattern which can only be made out from a light aircraft. The contstuction and subsequent repairs which has resulted in a mess.

The town, borough and county councils have a proven track record of botch, overspend and failure.

Piersight says...
9:10pm Sun 10 Jan 10

It is encouraging to know that the council has the budget and the will to mobilise their contractors to cut down trees on a Sunday during the big freeze. Pity they can’t get the rubbish collected or the pavements cleared of snow and ice to make the town safer for residents though!

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9:35pm Sun 10 Jan 10

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Francis Grubb says...
9:53pm Sun 10 Jan 10

firedog wrote:
It is amazing that everyone can do things better than the council,until they try of course.I wonder how many billion trillion trees there are in England alone,have any tree huggers ever tried counting them? It might give you somthing to do on a sunny day.
I live in Westcliff and thus have a particular interest in the bit of England where I live. If there is a ton of trees in the rest of the country, great, but I want to see greenery around here, not just bricks, concrete & asphalt. I suspect most people appreciate that too.

And Soozie's right - this council certainly seems to have a nasty record of taking out trees wherever they can, during works. A case in point; when they put in the new bus stop on the A13 at Hamlet Court Rd, they took out over 30 mature trees and planted just 3 new ones. So when I see claims of "we're planting new ones", I'd really like to see the evidence.

Frank

Nobblyknees says...
10:24pm Sun 10 Jan 10

It's always a sad day when large healthy trees are cut down. Let's all hope this regeneration scheme works for the benefit of all, which somehow I doubt.

imco says...
11:29pm Sun 10 Jan 10

Informed Resident wrote:
Anyone who is really going to pass a serious comment on this story must ensure they have got their facts right! It’s only narrow minded people who choose not to see the real benefits of this scheme especially for the future generations of Southend. Could you imagine this town if no regeneration took place, the world is forever changing and progressing, surly it is better that Southend moves with the times and is developed for the future! There is no loss here with this scheme in fact there is only something to be gained, particularly with more trees being planted as part of this scheme, clearly I am the only resident who has paid any attention to information that has been communicated through the local media, advertising and the Council! For those of you that have commented on this story I’d like to ask one question, have you improved your home, maybe new furniture, a conservatory or extension perhaps – if so, then why did you do this? The answer is to improve and update your surroundings! Well this is exactly what is being done for our town!
As you're so well informed please could you sum up, briefly, what the benefits of losing these trees will be? Also, please explain why people are not currently able to get into the town. Is it, by any chance, that the planners b*llsed it up with their previous big ideas, like the one way systems, roads blocked off, dreadful previous developments with all the community feel and style of a concrete box and that fail completely to make any use of the town's biggest asset, the waterfront. All big, expensive, ideas.

These people, Anna Waite especially, are PUBLIC SERVANTS. They are appointed to SERVE THE PUBLIC. Too many people feel that these PUBLIC SERVANTS are actively working against the people of this sad old town.

JuliaM says...
8:13am Mon 11 Jan 10

Just seen the devestation wrought on the roundabout - shocking!

Still, now the empty, desolate vista across the roundabout matches the empty, desolate 'regenerated' Victoria shopping centre...

gilleon says...
9:19am Mon 11 Jan 10

What a disgrace this looks today. I thought it particularly intersting to see the notice boards proclaiming Pasul Robinson solicitors had been paying for the maintainence and upkeep of the roundabout for many years just dumped on top of the pile of rubbish left by the tree felling. Vic Circus used to look impressive at the end of a tree lined avenue as you came into town. I wonder how long it will be until we get something that will compare favourably with that?

DannyK86 says...
10:00am Mon 11 Jan 10

It's rather ironic that the same whingers now whingeing about the removal of the roundabout were probably whingeing when Victoria Circus was altered in the first place to put a roundabout there! Some of them are certainly old enough.

Some people just love to moan, whatever happens.

woodsman says...
10:21am Mon 11 Jan 10

It is total desecration. I live outside the Borough but saw the damage being done on Sunday. As others have said who was told this was going to be done this weekend. Do people know how long it takes for a tree to get to the size and maturity of those cut down? They say they will plant 2 or 3 for everyone cut down, but they are small and do not have the stature of the ones destroyed. I used to live in Southend and agree it is about time the Councillors listened to those of us who elect them, but this is the same everywhere.
I just hope Anna Waite had a good niights sleep knowing she has destroyed another bit of Southend.
It is not just tress on the roundabout that were cut down one in Victoria Ave was also cut down, why? I expect we wil be told it was roten, but that is not the case I inspected the stump and trunk, it is sound.

It cannot be in the way to make a cross road from a roundabout, and I am sure it could have been saved. The simple answer is now they have gone the Council have lost a maintenance cost and a liability.

Tiger Rider says...
10:33am Mon 11 Jan 10

VANDALISM!!!!!

Get Anna Waite out now, before she destroys what little character we have left in southend. The horrible propogator type university and the recent lego building opposite Sainsburys being a case in point.

alicedonut says...
11:09am Mon 11 Jan 10

Just you wait! less trees = more flooding. with the big freeze coming to a close and the big thaw coming it must be the WORST time ever to cut down trees especially on a roundabout!

JuliaM says...
11:42am Mon 11 Jan 10

I'd like to know how the removal of the trees will achieve Waite's stated aim: “It will make it so much easier and more convenient for people to arrive via different forms of transport and get straight into the heart of the town.”

What different forms of transport will now be catered for? Low flying aircraft?

Don South says...
11:46am Mon 11 Jan 10

Who remembers the old Vicotira Arcade - now long gone and replaced with the concrete celebration of everything 1960s? I have vague memories of shoe shops, china and glass shops and the sweet shop - distant memories - remember all the rows of houses knocked down and everyone moved into the blocks of flats. I remember a walk along London Road - the patch of grass where everyone sat down at lunchtime - gone, the church - gone, old bus station - gone - market - gone, college - gone - such is progress.
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I remember watching the pier burning down some 34 years ago with aircraft dropping water on it as it burned - have they fixed it yet?

DannyK86 says...
11:46am Mon 11 Jan 10

alicedonut wrote:
Just you wait! less trees = more flooding. with the big freeze coming to a close and the big thaw coming it must be the WORST time ever to cut down trees especially on a roundabout!
That would make sense if these trees were in the drainage basin or catchment area of a flood-prone river. Since they're on a drain-serviced roundabout in a town centre with no history of serious flooding, that's a bit of an irrelevant observation.

Don South says...
11:49am Mon 11 Jan 10

JuliaM wrote:
I'd like to know how the removal of the trees will achieve Waite's stated aim: “It will make it so much easier and more convenient for people to arrive via different forms of transport and get straight into the heart of the town.” What different forms of transport will now be catered for? Low flying aircraft?
Have you not seen the plans for the £25 million scheme for this area?

southendreb says...
12:28pm Mon 11 Jan 10

Yes i have seen the plans , have you and do you understand them. Apart fromthe disruption for over year, the end result will just cause chaos.

Max Impact says...
12:29pm Mon 11 Jan 10

One tree cut down TWO planted unless my maths is wrong there will be twice as many tress granted they will nit all be in the same place and not all mature but we will get to see them age anf grow,

just like Southend will grow with all the new things being started, Vic Circus, the sea front, the museum in the cliffs and hopefully the airport.

If you hate progress move to Zimbabwe!

Southendian says...
12:34pm Mon 11 Jan 10

Waite (nee Tomassi) will be ousted when she next fights for her seat. The people will speak at the ballot box. Progress yes. Needless destruction no.

Soozie says...
12:39pm Mon 11 Jan 10

Southendian wrote:
Waite (nee Tomassi) will be ousted when she next fights for her seat. The people will speak at the ballot box. Progress yes. Needless destruction no.
She is related to the restaurant Tomassi?

imco says...
1:13pm Mon 11 Jan 10

Soozie wrote:
Southendian wrote: Waite (nee Tomassi) will be ousted when she next fights for her seat. The people will speak at the ballot box. Progress yes. Needless destruction no.
She is related to the restaurant Tomassi?
Yes, Anna Tomassi at school.

What ward does she represent?

Max Impact says...
1:22pm Mon 11 Jan 10

Southendian wrote:
Waite (nee Tomassi) will be ousted when she next fights for her seat. The people will speak at the ballot box. Progress yes. Needless destruction no.
So a few trees need to be cut down if you forbid trees being cut down how is the town going to be able to progress forward.

If we listened to all the Nimbys SAEN, Skipp, PPPS, Bling and so on then we would revert to the stone age and live in caves crap on the floor and eat nothing but grass.

No thanks I like my warm house, car and Wii too much to give them up.

frank & monty says...
1:40pm Mon 11 Jan 10

Max Impact wrote:
One tree cut down TWO planted unless my maths is wrong there will be twice as many tress granted they will nit all be in the same place and not all mature but we will get to see them age anf grow, just like Southend will grow with all the new things being started, Vic Circus, the sea front, the museum in the cliffs and hopefully the airport. If you hate progress move to Zimbabwe!
Ah Max, Max.....what a naive man you sound. Are your spectacles rose-coloured? Are you a friend of Anna Waite? Do you own a chainsaw?
Anyway, pleased to see that your maths appears to be far better than your spelling.
Max, please take the time to drive / walk along Thorpe Hall Avenue to see the council's 'cut one down replace with two' policy in action. There was one horse-chestnut tree every 20 yards along the avenue until the 'chainsaw massacre' gang came along. It was explained that these trees were diseased, which is debateable, so they were cut down. Unfortunately the 'replace' bit of the equation has been quietly forgotten.
Look up the definition of 'avenue' then ask the council why they do not think that this definition should apply here nor in Victoria Avenue. See, another avenue without trees! Isn't is so simple to gloss over this issue! (Note to Anna - just change the names from Avenue to Road then the problem will just go away...).
This blatant, wanton felling of trees is happening throughout the Borough so please don't insult everybody's intelligence by stating that they are all replaced by this second-rate council.

Peter Pantsless says...
2:12pm Mon 11 Jan 10

PLEASE CAN SOMEBODY, ANYBODY, WHOEVER, GET THIS TERRIBLE EGO MANIAC WOMAN OUT OF THE COUNCIL BEFORE SHE IS ABLE TO DO ANYMORE IRRECOVERABLE DAMAGE TO THIS ONCE REASONABLY PLEASANT LOOKING BOROUGH AND TOWN CENTRE.
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DOES ANYONE HAVE A HOTLINE TO THE A-TEAM ?
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SERIOUSLY, THIS WOMAN MUST BE STOPPED!
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WEEK AFTER WEEK ALL WE HEAR AND READ ABOUT IS HER BULL IN A CHINA SHOP STEAM-ROLLING ATTITUDE TO SPITE THE PEOPLE OF SOUTHEND.
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OH ANNA, HOW PROUD WE ARE ALL OF YOU AND EVERYTHING POSITIVE AND CONSTRUCTIVE YOUVE EVER ACHEIVED FOR YOUR ELECTORATE!...NOT!!!
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(PS; I KNOW ITS ALL IN CAPITALS, THATS BECAUSE I'M SHOUTING!!!!)

guygrim says...
2:22pm Mon 11 Jan 10

What a disgrace they called the police to patrol the area while they destroyed perfectly good trees; I thought people were allowed to protest!

Who wants to sit outside the station anyway?

I think the whole thing is going to make a mess of the town not make it better; there is nothing wrong with it as it is.

Peter Pantsless says...
2:41pm Mon 11 Jan 10

I HAVE COPIED THE FOLLOWING FROM SBC'S WEBSITE....
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" Southend-on-Sea Borough Council plans to improve the link between Victoria Railway station and the town centre. The roundabout in front of the station was designed in the 1960's and can't take anymore traffic in peak times. It also acts as a visual block to people arriving in the town by road and rail.

The new gateway aims to address these problems and improve the experience for pedestrians, cyclists and public transport users, without having a significant impact on traffic. The plan is to make this important gateway to the town more attractive, efficient and safer"
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WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH!!!
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I TRAVEL THROUGH VIC CIRCUS EVERYDAY DURING RUSH HOUR AND WHAT CAUSES THE DELAYS ARE THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS AT THE BLUE BOAR AND THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS AT FOCUS YOUTH CENTRE NOT THE ROUNDABOUT.
ON THE COMMON OCCASION WHEN THE LATER SET OF LIGHTS FAIL THE TRAFFIC IS EVEN MORE FREE FLOWING.
ANYONE COTTONING ON TO A THEME HERE?....
TRAFFIC LIGHTS CAUSE MORE CONJESTION!
THE ROUNDABOUT WORKS JUST FINE!
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WHAT ALSO MAKES ME LAUGH/CRY IS THE CLAIM THAT A PLEASANTLY LANSCAPED ROUNDABOUT APPARENTLY ACTS AS A 'VISUAL BLOCK'
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PLEASE CHECK OUT THE REST OF THE 'BETTER SOUTHEND' WEBPAGES, IT MUSTVE COST THE TAXPAYER MILLIONS TO PAY RENAISSANCE CONSULTANTS TO COME UP WITH THAT AMOUNT OF SPIN!

evilc says...
4:03pm Mon 11 Jan 10

Luddites all of you !!

Anyway that screwed the smelly Blingers !!

Well done Anne whatever your name is! any chance of an ice cream?

And to get the record straight there was four fellers there not tree fellers.

RUSSWOOK says...
4:58pm Mon 11 Jan 10

So what consideration did the Council and Renaisance give to the life that inhabbited the roundabout? Funny how the council sneaked this one past us before any protestors could get wind of it, is that cowardice I can smell? The least you could do is to be forthright to us council tax payers with what you doing to offsett your destruction. I knew nothing about this until I looked outside my work window today in horror. We shouldn't have to seek out this information, we should get it through our doors. The part of the proposal that say's "To create a more viable gateway entrance to the town centre with clear direction and conveying a sense of arrival and orientation". Surely some hoodies and The Pan pipe people holding up a big welcome sign would be much cheaper and give a more genuine realistic idea of what people have in store for them. Yes we could cleary use a spruce up of southend but hopfully i'm not being unreasonable to expect them to plant some huge Yellow lego tree's there instead....and while you're at it, give us our market back.

RUSSWOOK says...
5:13pm Mon 11 Jan 10

Peter Pantsless wrote:
I HAVE COPIED THE FOLLOWING FROM SBC'S WEBSITE.... . " Southend-on-Sea Borough Council plans to improve the link between Victoria Railway station and the town centre. The roundabout in front of the station was designed in the 1960's and can't take anymore traffic in peak times. It also acts as a visual block to people arriving in the town by road and rail. The new gateway aims to address these problems and improve the experience for pedestrians, cyclists and public transport users, without having a significant impact on traffic. The plan is to make this important gateway to the town more attractive, efficient and safer" . WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH!!! . I TRAVEL THROUGH VIC CIRCUS EVERYDAY DURING RUSH HOUR AND WHAT CAUSES THE DELAYS ARE THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS AT THE BLUE BOAR AND THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS AT FOCUS YOUTH CENTRE NOT THE ROUNDABOUT. ON THE COMMON OCCASION WHEN THE LATER SET OF LIGHTS FAIL THE TRAFFIC IS EVEN MORE FREE FLOWING. ANYONE COTTONING ON TO A THEME HERE?.... TRAFFIC LIGHTS CAUSE MORE CONJESTION! THE ROUNDABOUT WORKS JUST FINE! . WHAT ALSO MAKES ME LAUGH/CRY IS THE CLAIM THAT A PLEASANTLY LANSCAPED ROUNDABOUT APPARENTLY ACTS AS A 'VISUAL BLOCK' . PLEASE CHECK OUT THE REST OF THE 'BETTER SOUTHEND' WEBPAGES, IT MUSTVE COST THE TAXPAYER MILLIONS TO PAY RENAISSANCE CONSULTANTS TO COME UP WITH THAT AMOUNT OF SPIN!
You're totally right, this is the one rare junction that actually works the way it is! If you want to welcome people you could've just done with the trees still there. Absolute morons. And anyone even using the word "Tree Huggers" are just proving they only care about 1 life form, their own.

firedog says...
5:26pm Mon 11 Jan 10

Lets revert Victoria avenue back to a single lane mud track as it used to be linking Prittlewell with South-end new town.That should please the luddites.The rot started when they invented electricity and we all got rid of our candles.

JuliaM says...
5:40pm Mon 11 Jan 10

Don South wrote:
JuliaM wrote:
I'd like to know how the removal of the trees will achieve Waite's stated aim: “It will make it so much easier and more convenient for people to arrive via different forms of transport and get straight into the heart of the town.” What different forms of transport will now be catered for? Low flying aircraft?
Have you not seen the plans for the £25 million scheme for this area?
Indeed I have, Don, and it's on a par with the ghastly development in Barking Town Centre. Yet another monument to the egos of modern art-college graduates that fancy themselves 'architects' nowadays, plus the rapacious consultants that infest local councils like bloodsucking ticks.

Still, it's nice to have a view of ... errr, what, exactly? The concrete walkway lining the station with the almost-deserted shiny new Victoria Cente?

Here's an idea, how about Anna get to work ensuring that enough shops want to open up in that centre to make it worthwhile, before she worries about the outside surroundings?

guygrim says...
6:01pm Mon 11 Jan 10

They "claim" they are going to"plant more trees" but I doubt this will really happen.

guygrim says...
6:08pm Mon 11 Jan 10

Soozie wrote:
Southendian wrote: Waite (nee Tomassi) will be ousted when she next fights for her seat. The people will speak at the ballot box. Progress yes. Needless destruction no.
She is related to the restaurant Tomassi?
Yes didn't you know that? I believe she is his daughter.

evilc says...
7:09pm Mon 11 Jan 10

Do you Ludites REALLY believe that we in Southend live in a Dictatorship?

Everyone is attacking Anne 'I'll have a Choc ice please'

Surely someone must know there is more than one person who decides policy in Southend.

Soozie says...
7:18pm Mon 11 Jan 10

Peter Pantsless wrote:
PLEASE CAN SOMEBODY, ANYBODY, WHOEVER, GET THIS TERRIBLE EGO MANIAC WOMAN OUT OF THE COUNCIL BEFORE SHE IS ABLE TO DO ANYMORE IRRECOVERABLE DAMAGE TO THIS ONCE REASONABLY PLEASANT LOOKING BOROUGH AND TOWN CENTRE. . DOES ANYONE HAVE A HOTLINE TO THE A-TEAM ? . SERIOUSLY, THIS WOMAN MUST BE STOPPED! . WEEK AFTER WEEK ALL WE HEAR AND READ ABOUT IS HER BULL IN A CHINA SHOP STEAM-ROLLING ATTITUDE TO SPITE THE PEOPLE OF SOUTHEND. . OH ANNA, HOW PROUD WE ARE ALL OF YOU AND EVERYTHING POSITIVE AND CONSTRUCTIVE YOUVE EVER ACHEIVED FOR YOUR ELECTORATE!...NOT!!! ! . (PS; I KNOW ITS ALL IN CAPITALS, THATS BECAUSE I'M SHOUTING!!!!)
Peter, I have never known you to shout in any forums, so I know you are very upset. And rightly so.

I have forwarded this thread to our very own Anna Waite so she can actually see how she is upsetting people with her tunnel (and very wrong vision) for this town.

I wonder if she has the bAlls to actually address this issue publicly.

Soozie says...
7:20pm Mon 11 Jan 10

guygrim wrote:
Soozie wrote:
Southendian wrote: Waite (nee Tomassi) will be ousted when she next fights for her seat. The people will speak at the ballot box. Progress yes. Needless destruction no.
She is related to the restaurant Tomassi?
Yes didn't you know that? I believe she is his daughter.
Nope I had no idea. Interesting though.

southendreb says...
8:09pm Mon 11 Jan 10

evilc wrote:
Do you Ludites REALLY believe that we in Southend live in a Dictatorship? Everyone is attacking Anne 'I'll have a Choc ice please' Surely someone must know there is more than one person who decides policy in Southend.
Your becoming a little boreing with your continual tirade of calling people ludites, Im sure you dont mean to ,
Maybe you have never met dear anna. But just look at her record.
The truth possibly is that cabinet members are frightened to put there head above the parapit for fear of ;losing there post
Dont believe me check out counciler north.

'V' says...
8:21pm Mon 11 Jan 10

I'm proud to be a Luddite. to not be a Luddite means being in full agreement with New Labour's technology at any cost policies.

Clive, sorry, I mean evilC is obviously a dyed in the wool New Labour supporter.

spike99 says...
9:10pm Mon 11 Jan 10

Two points - I was told the other year that despite Anna Waite being voted out, somehow, via a back door or a magic wardrobe or whatever, she managed to get back in, hence the chaos.

Also - having seen anything of value building wise destroyed by successive councils - the old Vic Circus was like the Brighton Lanes, the Royal Hotel at the top of Pier Hill - which I believe was built in the 1700s, our poor old Pier, which used to be wonderful to visit (I was there the day it went up in flames), and now York Road Market. They were so determined to get that and now seem to have got their way.

I am not opposed to new buildings but in a context that doesn't scream at the rest of the Town.

Failing that, if Southend Council are so against the state of their own town, as a suggestion, why don't they just build a forty foot wall round the entire borough, pave all the roads over, (we don't want any of those nasty cars or people in our nice empty town) shut what shops are still going and have done with it!

Will save a fortune!!!!!!!!!!!!!

imco says...
9:14pm Mon 11 Jan 10

Luddite is one of those words that are casually, and often as now mistakenly, thrown at people with whom you disagree, or you don't understand.

Since when has it been luddite to oppose dishonesty, vandalism, blatant disregard for the people you 'represent', failure to follow council procedure, waste of public funds, some might even say misuse of public office?

What is 'luddite' about wanting to preserve big, oxygen producing, trees? Ever more important as the world develops.

evilc says...
9:21pm Mon 11 Jan 10

southendreb wrote:
evilc wrote:
Do you Ludites REALLY believe that we in Southend live in a Dictatorship? Everyone is attacking Anne 'I'll have a Choc ice please' Surely someone must know there is more than one person who decides policy in Southend.
Your becoming a little boreing with your continual tirade of calling people ludites, Im sure you dont mean to ,
Maybe you have never met dear anna. But just look at her record.
The truth possibly is that cabinet members are frightened to put there head above the parapit for fear of ;losing there post
Dont believe me check out counciler north.
She is my Nan!

evilc says...
9:26pm Mon 11 Jan 10

In fact I might even start the:

'Ludite Party' In the General Election.

There seems to be enough supporters locally.

'V' says...
9:46pm Mon 11 Jan 10

evilc wrote:
In fact I might even start the:

'Ludite Party' In the General Election.

There seems to be enough supporters locally.
If you're going to use it, the least you could do is learn to spell Luddite correctly.
You might also research the correct context.

Thames Gateway says...
9:48pm Mon 11 Jan 10

Must admit I am neutral on the proposal, not sure that the traffic flow will be improved as such. Did I not read that The Deeping underpass was also to be closed?

Bearing in mind the trouble the council encountered with camp bling holding up projects, I am not surprised they decided to act before they had the meeting with the tree huggers. You could even say the experience form the previous encounter predicated rapid action on this project before things gathered (anti) momentum.
I am not pro council or this project, for me the juries still out. I don't think as a society we should ever be scared of trying new things in case we upset some/ a lot of people; however perhaps some better publicity of what the changes would actually involve would have been beneficial.
I just hope the works are done quickly and with minimum of disruption now that they have started.

imco says...
9:53pm Mon 11 Jan 10

spike99 wrote:
Two points - I was told the other year that despite Anna Waite being voted out, somehow, via a back door or a magic wardrobe or whatever, she managed to get back in, hence the chaos. Also - having seen anything of value building wise destroyed by successive councils - the old Vic Circus was like the Brighton Lanes, the Royal Hotel at the top of Pier Hill - which I believe was built in the 1700s, our poor old Pier, which used to be wonderful to visit (I was there the day it went up in flames), and now York Road Market. They were so determined to get that and now seem to have got their way. I am not opposed to new buildings but in a context that doesn't scream at the rest of the Town. Failing that, if Southend Council are so against the state of their own town, as a suggestion, why don't they just build a forty foot wall round the entire borough, pave all the roads over, (we don't want any of those nasty cars or people in our nice empty town) shut what shops are still going and have done with it! Will save a fortune!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hear, hear! Might the council consider their own role in creating the town that they seem to despise?

'V' says...
11:32pm Mon 11 Jan 10

"Anna Waite, Southend Council’s executive councillor for transport and planning, said: “We are extremely proud of this scheme, which will transform the entrance to Southend Town Centre."

Well yes! Now Anna's got rid of all those pesky trees she hates so much, people arriving in our once lovely town will have an unobstructed view of the back wall of the Odeon...

Virtuallintu says...
12:46am Tue 12 Jan 10

As someone once said, you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs. Pause, people, pause and take a collective deep breath. The current arrangement does look rubbish and whilst I regret the loss of any tree, (and supported Camp Bling) sometimes we have to bite the bullet for the greater long term good. Just for once, can we look on the bright side?

perini says...
1:16am Tue 12 Jan 10

firedog wrote:
Lets revert Victoria avenue back to a single lane mud track as it used to be linking Prittlewell with South-end new town.That should please the luddites.The rot started when they invented electricity and we all got rid of our candles.
Comments like that just go to show what a complete tosser you are!!

essexboi1989 says...
9:22am Tue 12 Jan 10

if want trees then go to a forest haha

Buffalo Bill says...
9:39am Tue 12 Jan 10

Ironically this drive for "progress" and "regeneration" seldom achieves much. Towns that have kept their character and old buildings have as a rule coped better and are considered nicer places to live and work. I am thinking Stratford on Avon, York, Harrogate, Old Leigh, while those towns that have chased "regeneration", tend to become souless, I am thinking Croydon, Basildon etc.

Does anyone else think Southend would have done better if the planners just left it alone?

The other problem with regeneration is that it will date very quickly and will soon look as good as the 60s built buildings do now and will need more money spent on it.

I do think that the interface from Southend Victoria to the High Street could be improved, but lets face it that chance was missed when they regenerated Victoria Circus shopping centre, some careful thought could have dealt with that issue.

Peter Pantsless says...
10:07am Tue 12 Jan 10

Very wise words Bill.

Shame they fall on Anna's very deaf ears.

Fixdit says...
11:15am Tue 12 Jan 10

If memory serves me right, when the Queensway ringroad was built but never finished, the retaining walls were put in place under the victoria roundabout to have an underpass constucted at a later date "when traffic flow needed it" perhaps now would have been a good time. not least to save all that wasted money.

Regarding traffic lights in Victoria Avenue, has anyone noticed that the set of lights by the civic centre carpark seem to change as soon as a car leaves the car park or a pedestrian appears ( I have even seen them change when there is no other traffic, 1.00am,around ). Is this a special council employee perk?

JohnGalt says...
1:00pm Tue 12 Jan 10

The old saying "if it ain't broken don't fix it" should be applied here - it is the one traffic system in the area that actually works.
(Whats wrong with trees anyway?)
As some one else said - amazing how the council can't get rubbish collected in the snow but they can get the police and contractors in Sunday morning to chop down some trees (I believe AW even made it to the event).
Shame on you SBC - yet again its not completely what you do but how you do it - even you seem ashamed.
Eveyone knows the answer however - vote them out and find someone else who will be interested in looking after the locals interests.

firedog says...
5:30pm Tue 12 Jan 10

Thank you perini for your intelligent reply to my light-hearted comment.perhaps my inclusion of the word luddite struck home.Without change the town will get worse,but some people cannot accept change of any type so we all stagnate with them?No thanks.

Nebs says...
7:00pm Tue 12 Jan 10

A £10 a day congestion charge would solve all the traffic problems.

Soozie says...
7:49pm Tue 12 Jan 10

firedog wrote:
Thank you perini for your intelligent reply to my light-hearted comment.perhaps my inclusion of the word luddite struck home.Without change the town will get worse,but some people cannot accept change of any type so we all stagnate with them?No thanks.
perrini rhymes with weenie - LOL

imco says...
7:50pm Tue 12 Jan 10

Buffalo Bill wrote:
Ironically this drive for "progress" and "regeneration" seldom achieves much. Towns that have kept their character and old buildings have as a rule coped better and are considered nicer places to live and work. I am thinking Stratford on Avon, York, Harrogate, Old Leigh, while those towns that have chased "regeneration", tend to become souless, I am thinking Croydon, Basildon etc. Does anyone else think Southend would have done better if the planners just left it alone? The other problem with regeneration is that it will date very quickly and will soon look as good as the 60s built buildings do now and will need more money spent on it. I do think that the interface from Southend Victoria to the High Street could be improved, but lets face it that chance was missed when they regenerated Victoria Circus shopping centre, some careful thought could have dealt with that issue.
I could not agree more. Towns which have kept their character seem to be more affluent too, for example Winchester, Bath, York. I've long thought SBC want to turn Southend into a bland Croydon style place.

wælcyrge says...
11:51am Wed 13 Jan 10

Does anyone know why some of the nearby trees have yellow markers on them? I hope it doesn't mean they're for the chop too...

Soozie says...
12:40pm Wed 13 Jan 10

wælcyrge wrote:
Does anyone know why some of the nearby trees have yellow markers on them? I hope it doesn't mean they're for the chop too...
I think Tony Orlando put them there.

wælcyrge says...
12:58pm Wed 13 Jan 10

Soozie wrote:
wælcyrge wrote: Does anyone know why some of the nearby trees have yellow markers on them? I hope it doesn't mean they're for the chop too...
I think Tony Orlando put them there.
He's coming home? He's done his time?

Soozie says...
1:10pm Wed 13 Jan 10

wælcyrge wrote:
Soozie wrote:
wælcyrge wrote: Does anyone know why some of the nearby trees have yellow markers on them? I hope it doesn't mean they're for the chop too...
I think Tony Orlando put them there.
He's coming home? He's done his time?
Now I've got to know what is and isn't mine

EstuaryView says...
10:52am Thu 14 Jan 10

Most people don't know that Anna Waite owns a construction and civil engineering company.

No wonder she wants to concret over Southend!

She should never have been given the portfolio for planning and development because of the obvious conflict of interest.

What a disgrace!

What an eco-terrorist!

leon sea says...
11:34am Thu 14 Jan 10

bore off soozie you have nothing to say and are saying it to loudly!!

Missy44 says...
2:18pm Thu 14 Jan 10

leon sea wrote:
bore off soozie you have nothing to say and are saying it to loudly!!
Love it, well said!!!

him says...
12:29pm Fri 15 Jan 10

-dont you all realise that trees actually dont last that long...they would of been felled any way
-the semi mature trees arent saplings they are massive
-and everyone was going for the company, but they are only doing whats contracted out to them..

notnimbys says...
9:50pm Fri 15 Jan 10

EstuaryView wrote:
Most people don't know that Anna Waite owns a construction and civil engineering company. No wonder she wants to concret over Southend! She should never have been given the portfolio for planning and development because of the obvious conflict of interest. What a disgrace! What an eco-terrorist!
oh and dont forget the cllr responsible for the airport expansion.yes you guessed it!..more congenstion..more pollution..less trees...thans very much...

him says...
12:08pm Tue 19 Jan 10

perini wrote:
firedog wrote: Lets revert Victoria avenue back to a single lane mud track as it used to be linking Prittlewell with South-end new town.That should please the luddites.The rot started when they invented electricity and we all got rid of our candles.
Comments like that just go to show what a complete tosser you are!!
well no not really.. he is showing his opinion like the rest of you...so this shows your the tosser

silvertop says...
11:36pm Sat 23 Jan 10

Great article on the trees and roundabout here:

http://piley.blogspo
t.com/2010/01/beddin
g-plants-for-sale-sl
ight-sawdust.html

some great points and funny too!

Silvertop

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