'We must fight Norman Foster's Thames airport'

Echo: Ray Howard Ray Howard

BATTLE lines are being drawn against Lord Foster’s plans for a new airport.

Canvey Town Council has strongly objected to the £40billion proposal for a four-runway scheme and vowed to fight them all the way.

Ray Howard, a town, borough and county councillor, told a meeting of the town council: “It is frightening the work which has gone into those plans. I say Canvey Town Council be the first in the queue to register its opposition to the airport. We need to resist these plans from the beginning.”

Mr Howard said he would speak to the chairman of Essex County Council to discuss the possibility of tabling a motion at a meeting for the county council to formally oppose the proposal.

John Anderson, chairman of the town council, said: “When people see big plans like those for the new airport in the newspaper, they tend to dismiss them, but it is a very, very serious issue. It is an absolute nightmare situation and I fully support any motion to oppose the plans.”

Dot Palmer, 64, of Linden Way, Canvey, said: “This will make our lives miserable. I did not move to Canvey to be disturbed at all times of the night by aeroplanes.”

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8:09am Thu 10 Nov 11

al coniston says...

still, on the positive side, light and air pollution won't be something new to the Islanders
still, on the positive side, light and air pollution won't be something new to the Islanders al coniston

9:15am Thu 10 Nov 11

carnacation says...

Be good for the airshow..
Be good for the airshow.. carnacation

9:19am Thu 10 Nov 11

MarshallT says...

I thought this daft idea goes back 50 years or more and has been dumped at least twice for very good reasons of practicality, cost and the environment.

Why can these people not come up with something original.
I thought this daft idea goes back 50 years or more and has been dumped at least twice for very good reasons of practicality, cost and the environment. Why can these people not come up with something original. MarshallT

10:13am Thu 10 Nov 11

upset says...

Good old Ray dont let party politics get in the way of what you believe.
Good old Ray dont let party politics get in the way of what you believe. upset

10:33am Thu 10 Nov 11

Nebs says...

I think it is a great idea. Rather than oppose it you should be fighting for it to go ahead and to ensure that there is a direct crossing, by rail or road, bridge or tunnel, from Canvey to the airport. Jobs for everyone.
I think it is a great idea. Rather than oppose it you should be fighting for it to go ahead and to ensure that there is a direct crossing, by rail or road, bridge or tunnel, from Canvey to the airport. Jobs for everyone. Nebs

2:33pm Thu 10 Nov 11

geezer, innit says...

rumour has it that when this plan to build the estuary airport goes ahead Canvey Island will be dug up and dredged out to provide the hardcore for part of the arport
rumour has it that when this plan to build the estuary airport goes ahead Canvey Island will be dug up and dredged out to provide the hardcore for part of the arport geezer, innit

4:15pm Thu 10 Nov 11

marshman says...

upset wrote:
Good old Ray dont let party politics get in the way of what you believe.
Do me a favour. Forgotten already the joint statement issued by Rebecca Harris and (the then shadow) secretary of state for transport Theresa Villiers? They gave a guarantee that there would be no estuary airport built under a tory government - in complete contradiction of London Mayor Borris Johnson. Poor old Ray even got roped into the photo shoot. Which is a bit embarrassing for him really because he's been twittering on about the benefits of such a scheme for at least the last 40 years (since Ted Heaths time anyway). It's disgraceful that he should now use the town council to push the party line. Let him play his games at county or Kiln Road, by all means, but the town council is for local issues - not political filibustering.
[quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: Good old Ray dont let party politics get in the way of what you believe.[/p][/quote]Do me a favour. Forgotten already the joint statement issued by Rebecca Harris and (the then shadow) secretary of state for transport Theresa Villiers? They gave a guarantee that there would be no estuary airport built under a tory government - in complete contradiction of London Mayor Borris Johnson. Poor old Ray even got roped into the photo shoot. Which is a bit embarrassing for him really because he's been twittering on about the benefits of such a scheme for at least the last 40 years (since Ted Heaths time anyway). It's disgraceful that he should now use the town council to push the party line. Let him play his games at county or Kiln Road, by all means, but the town council is for local issues - not political filibustering. marshman

3:19pm Fri 11 Nov 11

upset says...

marshman wrote:
upset wrote:
Good old Ray dont let party politics get in the way of what you believe.
Do me a favour. Forgotten already the joint statement issued by Rebecca Harris and (the then shadow) secretary of state for transport Theresa Villiers? They gave a guarantee that there would be no estuary airport built under a tory government - in complete contradiction of London Mayor Borris Johnson. Poor old Ray even got roped into the photo shoot. Which is a bit embarrassing for him really because he's been twittering on about the benefits of such a scheme for at least the last 40 years (since Ted Heaths time anyway). It's disgraceful that he should now use the town council to push the party line. Let him play his games at county or Kiln Road, by all means, but the town council is for local issues - not political filibustering.
Did you read his quote or just start tapping on the keyboard with more anti Howard rubbish?
[quote][p][bold]marshman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: Good old Ray dont let party politics get in the way of what you believe.[/p][/quote]Do me a favour. Forgotten already the joint statement issued by Rebecca Harris and (the then shadow) secretary of state for transport Theresa Villiers? They gave a guarantee that there would be no estuary airport built under a tory government - in complete contradiction of London Mayor Borris Johnson. Poor old Ray even got roped into the photo shoot. Which is a bit embarrassing for him really because he's been twittering on about the benefits of such a scheme for at least the last 40 years (since Ted Heaths time anyway). It's disgraceful that he should now use the town council to push the party line. Let him play his games at county or Kiln Road, by all means, but the town council is for local issues - not political filibustering.[/p][/quote]Did you read his quote or just start tapping on the keyboard with more anti Howard rubbish? upset

11:00pm Fri 11 Nov 11

GentleGiant says...

We need the airport - and the sooner ray understands that the better.
We need the airport - and the sooner ray understands that the better. GentleGiant

1:39pm Sat 12 Nov 11

marshman says...

upset wrote:
marshman wrote:
upset wrote: Good old Ray dont let party politics get in the way of what you believe.
Do me a favour. Forgotten already the joint statement issued by Rebecca Harris and (the then shadow) secretary of state for transport Theresa Villiers? They gave a guarantee that there would be no estuary airport built under a tory government - in complete contradiction of London Mayor Borris Johnson. Poor old Ray even got roped into the photo shoot. Which is a bit embarrassing for him really because he's been twittering on about the benefits of such a scheme for at least the last 40 years (since Ted Heaths time anyway). It's disgraceful that he should now use the town council to push the party line. Let him play his games at county or Kiln Road, by all means, but the town council is for local issues - not political filibustering.
Did you read his quote or just start tapping on the keyboard with more anti Howard rubbish?
Of course I read Rays comment - and knew I was right. Took a while to find something tucked away in the Echo archive, but it's there alright.

Monday 11th February 2008. A comment from Ray Howard in support of an estuary airport. The same old drivel in fact that he's been spouting for decades (ask him, his numbers in the book and on the council web site).

Funny how a year later he's roped in and ordered to tow the party line by the MP and Secretary of State for Transport.

Which brings me back to my original criticism of your comment.

The plain truth of the matter is he's thrown his beliefs out of the window in the name of party politics and been ordered not to rock the boat.

Isn't that a definition for the word 'hypocrite'?
[quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marshman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: Good old Ray dont let party politics get in the way of what you believe.[/p][/quote]Do me a favour. Forgotten already the joint statement issued by Rebecca Harris and (the then shadow) secretary of state for transport Theresa Villiers? They gave a guarantee that there would be no estuary airport built under a tory government - in complete contradiction of London Mayor Borris Johnson. Poor old Ray even got roped into the photo shoot. Which is a bit embarrassing for him really because he's been twittering on about the benefits of such a scheme for at least the last 40 years (since Ted Heaths time anyway). It's disgraceful that he should now use the town council to push the party line. Let him play his games at county or Kiln Road, by all means, but the town council is for local issues - not political filibustering.[/p][/quote]Did you read his quote or just start tapping on the keyboard with more anti Howard rubbish?[/p][/quote]Of course I read Rays comment - and knew I was right. Took a while to find something tucked away in the Echo archive, but it's there alright. Monday 11th February 2008. A comment from Ray Howard in support of an estuary airport. The same old drivel in fact that he's been spouting for decades (ask him, his numbers in the book and on the council web site). Funny how a year later he's roped in and ordered to tow the party line by the MP and Secretary of State for Transport. Which brings me back to my original criticism of your comment. The plain truth of the matter is he's thrown his beliefs out of the window in the name of party politics and been ordered not to rock the boat. Isn't that a definition for the word 'hypocrite'? marshman

2:14pm Mon 14 Nov 11

John T Pharro says...

Whether Ray Howard supported the previous airport or not is irrelevant. IT SHOULD NOT BE BUILT.
The question I would want to know is who paid for all these plans to be produced. Public funds or private?
There seem to be endless proposals from tunnels under the Thames with the spoil heaped round Canvey, third bridges using Canvey as a leg for the bridge to support, barriers from the Isle of Sheppey to Southend etc etc. All of them flying kites, but who pays for these daft plans?
Whether Ray Howard supported the previous airport or not is irrelevant. IT SHOULD NOT BE BUILT. The question I would want to know is who paid for all these plans to be produced. Public funds or private? There seem to be endless proposals from tunnels under the Thames with the spoil heaped round Canvey, third bridges using Canvey as a leg for the bridge to support, barriers from the Isle of Sheppey to Southend etc etc. All of them flying kites, but who pays for these daft plans? John T Pharro

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