Experts called in over airport parking problems

Echo: Experts called in over airport parking problems Experts called in over airport parking problems

PARKING experts have been called in to investigate whether Southend Airport is causing problems in surrounding roads.

Bosses at Southend Council have commissioned Nationwide Data Collection, a firm which specialises in compiling traffic statistics, to find out whether there is any truth in complaints that residential areas are becoming clogged up with passengers’ cars.

People living in streets around the airport have reported vehicles being dumped for up to two weeks, allegedly by holidaymakers seeking to avoid shelling out for long-stay parking.

A 64-year-old resident of Wells Avenue, who asked not be named for fear of reprisals, said: “I’ve been noticing more and more problems recently.

“When the airport first started having more flights, there were one or two people chancing their luck.

“Now you see dozens of cars parked here for weeks on end.”

The airport currently has about 1,100 parking spaces, and plans 470 more as part of its terminal expansion scheme.

Long-stay places are priced at £10 a day for customers who do not book.

In September, the Echo revealed several enterprising residents were offering to undercut the airport by renting out their driveways to passengers.

Several rival firms, which offer secure parking away from the airport, are also competing for business.

However, a spokesman for Southend Council said the decision to order the investigation was not the result of complaints from residents.

The survey was completed over two days and nights last week.

The spokesman said: “A previous survey was done in December last year, and we want to compare its results with the results of this latest one to see if the new terminal building and new easyJet flight destinations have led to more people parking in residential streets around the airport.”

Alastair Welch, the managing director of Southend Airport, said he was keen to work with the council if the survey threw up any problems.

He added: “Whilst we have invested heavily in public transport from the construction of the new rail station to the construction of new bus shelters - and we have plenty of parking space on the airport - we are working hard to establish the extent of any on-street parking that may be taking place as a result of the airport.”

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10:11am Wed 19 Dec 12

Eric Whim says...

are these people who are alleged to be parking their cars in residential roads for weeks actually contravening any laws?
are these people who are alleged to be parking their cars in residential roads for weeks actually contravening any laws? Eric Whim
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10:14am Wed 19 Dec 12

jayman says...

ask cllr Nigel Holdcroft for his thoughts on the matter

He was director of Southend Borough Council Airport Limited in 1993 so surly he knows how to run an airport without getting into any debt and without any problems!!!? He also knows how remain impartial in his later/current post as leader of Southend council!!!?....

he will 'problem shoot' this issue right into the long grass!

why don't stobart give him a ring. They should have his number on speed dial..
ask cllr Nigel Holdcroft for his thoughts on the matter He was director of Southend Borough Council Airport Limited in 1993 so surly he knows how to run an airport without getting into any debt and without any problems!!!? He also knows how remain impartial in his later/current post as leader of Southend council!!!?.... he will 'problem shoot' this issue right into the long grass! why don't stobart give him a ring. They should have his number on speed dial.. jayman
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10:15am Wed 19 Dec 12

jayman says...

jayman wrote:
ask cllr Nigel Holdcroft for his thoughts on the matter

He was director of Southend Borough Council Airport Limited in 1993 so surly he knows how to run an airport without getting into any debt and without any problems!!!? He also knows how remain impartial in his later/current post as leader of Southend council!!!?....

he will 'problem shoot' this issue right into the long grass!

why don't stobart give him a ring. They should have his number on speed dial..
https://www.duedil.c
om/director/91421721
6/thomas-nigel-holdc
roft
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: ask cllr Nigel Holdcroft for his thoughts on the matter He was director of Southend Borough Council Airport Limited in 1993 so surly he knows how to run an airport without getting into any debt and without any problems!!!? He also knows how remain impartial in his later/current post as leader of Southend council!!!?.... he will 'problem shoot' this issue right into the long grass! why don't stobart give him a ring. They should have his number on speed dial..[/p][/quote]https://www.duedil.c om/director/91421721 6/thomas-nigel-holdc roft jayman
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10:39am Wed 19 Dec 12

Leighdweller says...

What reprisals might the 64 year old resident of Wells Avenue be expecting exactly?
What reprisals might the 64 year old resident of Wells Avenue be expecting exactly? Leighdweller
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10:41am Wed 19 Dec 12

j-w says...

No more of a problem for the locals than parking from RBS staff or those using the Hospital. It appears there are some cars left on nearby roads but on the whole the car parks both on airport and off seem to be well used.
No more of a problem for the locals than parking from RBS staff or those using the Hospital. It appears there are some cars left on nearby roads but on the whole the car parks both on airport and off seem to be well used. j-w
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10:44am Wed 19 Dec 12

Brunning999 says...

The answer is simple:

Ban all white coloured cars from the road.
The answer is simple: Ban all white coloured cars from the road. Brunning999
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10:49am Wed 19 Dec 12

Eric Whim says...

Leighdweller wrote:
What reprisals might the 64 year old resident of Wells Avenue be expecting exactly?
they'll nobble the brakes on his zimmer frame
[quote][p][bold]Leighdweller[/bold] wrote: What reprisals might the 64 year old resident of Wells Avenue be expecting exactly?[/p][/quote]they'll nobble the brakes on his zimmer frame Eric Whim
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10:50am Wed 19 Dec 12

Carnabackable says...

Surely the home owners can park their cars on their driveways,leaving the roads free for airport users.
Surely the home owners can park their cars on their driveways,leaving the roads free for airport users. Carnabackable
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10:50am Wed 19 Dec 12

Andycal 172D says...

May one politely ask just how much this report will cost? I thought the Council were hard pressed financially and the Consultantcy fees were already stacking up this year.

I know this may be unscientific but surely the relevant Councillors/officers could do this strange thing called "going and having a look". But then I suppose they run the risk of having to meet the electorate and being lynched if anyone finds out who they are.
May one politely ask just how much this report will cost? I thought the Council were hard pressed financially and the Consultantcy fees were already stacking up this year. I know this may be unscientific but surely the relevant Councillors/officers could do this strange thing called "going and having a look". But then I suppose they run the risk of having to meet the electorate and being lynched if anyone finds out who they are. Andycal 172D
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10:52am Wed 19 Dec 12

perini says...

If they are taxed and insured what's the problem?
If they are taxed and insured what's the problem? perini
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10:55am Wed 19 Dec 12

Eric Whim says...

Andycal 172D wrote:
May one politely ask just how much this report will cost? I thought the Council were hard pressed financially and the Consultantcy fees were already stacking up this year.

I know this may be unscientific but surely the relevant Councillors/officers could do this strange thing called "going and having a look". But then I suppose they run the risk of having to meet the electorate and being lynched if anyone finds out who they are.
they could send that roller skate with cameras on it to have a butchers
[quote][p][bold]Andycal 172D[/bold] wrote: May one politely ask just how much this report will cost? I thought the Council were hard pressed financially and the Consultantcy fees were already stacking up this year. I know this may be unscientific but surely the relevant Councillors/officers could do this strange thing called "going and having a look". But then I suppose they run the risk of having to meet the electorate and being lynched if anyone finds out who they are.[/p][/quote]they could send that roller skate with cameras on it to have a butchers Eric Whim
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12:39pm Wed 19 Dec 12

r6keith says...

This might be in convenient to people living near the airport but as long as the vehicles are legal the owners of them are breaking no laws by parking them there.I live just outside the controlled parking zone around the hospital and every week day now our road is cluttered with vechicles from people working or visiting the hospital.
This might be in convenient to people living near the airport but as long as the vehicles are legal the owners of them are breaking no laws by parking them there.I live just outside the controlled parking zone around the hospital and every week day now our road is cluttered with vechicles from people working or visiting the hospital. r6keith
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12:54pm Wed 19 Dec 12

rjsizzler says...

“When the airport first started having more flights, there were one or two people chancing their luck."

Chancing their luck to park legally for free. Hardly Russian Roulette.
“When the airport first started having more flights, there were one or two people chancing their luck." Chancing their luck to park legally for free. Hardly Russian Roulette. rjsizzler
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1:18pm Wed 19 Dec 12

jayman says...

r6keith wrote:
This might be in convenient to people living near the airport but as long as the vehicles are legal the owners of them are breaking no laws by parking them there.I live just outside the controlled parking zone around the hospital and every week day now our road is cluttered with vechicles from people working or visiting the hospital.
surly busy streets that are packed with parked cars will effect house prices?

no, I'm sorry. busy streets packed with parked cars 'DO' effect house prices.
[quote][p][bold]r6keith[/bold] wrote: This might be in convenient to people living near the airport but as long as the vehicles are legal the owners of them are breaking no laws by parking them there.I live just outside the controlled parking zone around the hospital and every week day now our road is cluttered with vechicles from people working or visiting the hospital.[/p][/quote]surly busy streets that are packed with parked cars will effect house prices? no, I'm sorry. busy streets packed with parked cars 'DO' effect house prices. jayman
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1:34pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Ian P says...

jayman wrote:
r6keith wrote: This might be in convenient to people living near the airport but as long as the vehicles are legal the owners of them are breaking no laws by parking them there.I live just outside the controlled parking zone around the hospital and every week day now our road is cluttered with vechicles from people working or visiting the hospital.
surly busy streets that are packed with parked cars will effect house prices? no, I'm sorry. busy streets packed with parked cars 'DO' effect house prices.
Are we to assume that you have never parked on the road outside someone's house, in case you impact the price of their house?
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]r6keith[/bold] wrote: This might be in convenient to people living near the airport but as long as the vehicles are legal the owners of them are breaking no laws by parking them there.I live just outside the controlled parking zone around the hospital and every week day now our road is cluttered with vechicles from people working or visiting the hospital.[/p][/quote]surly busy streets that are packed with parked cars will effect house prices? no, I'm sorry. busy streets packed with parked cars 'DO' effect house prices.[/p][/quote]Are we to assume that you have never parked on the road outside someone's house, in case you impact the price of their house? Ian P
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1:50pm Wed 19 Dec 12

j-w says...

Ian P wrote:
jayman wrote:
r6keith wrote: This might be in convenient to people living near the airport but as long as the vehicles are legal the owners of them are breaking no laws by parking them there.I live just outside the controlled parking zone around the hospital and every week day now our road is cluttered with vechicles from people working or visiting the hospital.
surly busy streets that are packed with parked cars will effect house prices? no, I'm sorry. busy streets packed with parked cars 'DO' effect house prices.
Are we to assume that you have never parked on the road outside someone's house, in case you impact the price of their house?
Jayman doesn't drive, he travels everywhere on a carbon neutral donkey.
[quote][p][bold]Ian P[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]r6keith[/bold] wrote: This might be in convenient to people living near the airport but as long as the vehicles are legal the owners of them are breaking no laws by parking them there.I live just outside the controlled parking zone around the hospital and every week day now our road is cluttered with vechicles from people working or visiting the hospital.[/p][/quote]surly busy streets that are packed with parked cars will effect house prices? no, I'm sorry. busy streets packed with parked cars 'DO' effect house prices.[/p][/quote]Are we to assume that you have never parked on the road outside someone's house, in case you impact the price of their house?[/p][/quote]Jayman doesn't drive, he travels everywhere on a carbon neutral donkey. j-w
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2:01pm Wed 19 Dec 12

A Pedant says...

So, Jayman finally nails his colours to the mast - his completely anti-anything-to-do-
with-the-airport stance is nothing to do with the environment but quite simply down to the effect on the value of his property.
So, Jayman finally nails his colours to the mast - his completely anti-anything-to-do- with-the-airport stance is nothing to do with the environment but quite simply down to the effect on the value of his property. A Pedant
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2:06pm Wed 19 Dec 12

rjsizzler says...

This is one of those situations where, in fact, something should probably be done. Yes, it's perfectly legal, but if certain roads are always full of cars then I can imagine how that would be annoying for residents.

In the same way as parking is restricted around stations, Southend Hospital etc. it should be around the airport. These initiatives tend to be driven by money (to force people to pay to park on-site) so I expect it's only a matter of time before parking restrictions are put in place. All they'd need to do is set a restriction of an hour in the middle of the day. They could issue permits but that's way more expensive to administer.
This is one of those situations where, in fact, something should probably be done. Yes, it's perfectly legal, but if certain roads are always full of cars then I can imagine how that would be annoying for residents. In the same way as parking is restricted around stations, Southend Hospital etc. it should be around the airport. These initiatives tend to be driven by money (to force people to pay to park on-site) so I expect it's only a matter of time before parking restrictions are put in place. All they'd need to do is set a restriction of an hour in the middle of the day. They could issue permits but that's way more expensive to administer. rjsizzler
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2:45pm Wed 19 Dec 12

perini says...

rjsizzler wrote:
This is one of those situations where, in fact, something should probably be done. Yes, it's perfectly legal, but if certain roads are always full of cars then I can imagine how that would be annoying for residents. In the same way as parking is restricted around stations, Southend Hospital etc. it should be around the airport. These initiatives tend to be driven by money (to force people to pay to park on-site) so I expect it's only a matter of time before parking restrictions are put in place. All they'd need to do is set a restriction of an hour in the middle of the day. They could issue permits but that's way more expensive to administer.
Why? If cars are lega,l and legally parked (not obstructing anyone's driveway) then what's the problem? Packed streets - so what?
[quote][p][bold]rjsizzler[/bold] wrote: This is one of those situations where, in fact, something should probably be done. Yes, it's perfectly legal, but if certain roads are always full of cars then I can imagine how that would be annoying for residents. In the same way as parking is restricted around stations, Southend Hospital etc. it should be around the airport. These initiatives tend to be driven by money (to force people to pay to park on-site) so I expect it's only a matter of time before parking restrictions are put in place. All they'd need to do is set a restriction of an hour in the middle of the day. They could issue permits but that's way more expensive to administer.[/p][/quote]Why? If cars are lega,l and legally parked (not obstructing anyone's driveway) then what's the problem? Packed streets - so what? perini
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3:27pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Carnabackable says...

perini wrote:
rjsizzler wrote:
This is one of those situations where, in fact, something should probably be done. Yes, it's perfectly legal, but if certain roads are always full of cars then I can imagine how that would be annoying for residents. In the same way as parking is restricted around stations, Southend Hospital etc. it should be around the airport. These initiatives tend to be driven by money (to force people to pay to park on-site) so I expect it's only a matter of time before parking restrictions are put in place. All they'd need to do is set a restriction of an hour in the middle of the day. They could issue permits but that's way more expensive to administer.
Why? If cars are lega,l and legally parked (not obstructing anyone's driveway) then what's the problem? Packed streets - so what?
I agree, look at any street in Westclff, the cars parked there are bumper to bumper, time for the moaning mini locals to face facts, you live near an airport - get over it, if you want peace, move to Rayleigh......
[quote][p][bold]perini[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rjsizzler[/bold] wrote: This is one of those situations where, in fact, something should probably be done. Yes, it's perfectly legal, but if certain roads are always full of cars then I can imagine how that would be annoying for residents. In the same way as parking is restricted around stations, Southend Hospital etc. it should be around the airport. These initiatives tend to be driven by money (to force people to pay to park on-site) so I expect it's only a matter of time before parking restrictions are put in place. All they'd need to do is set a restriction of an hour in the middle of the day. They could issue permits but that's way more expensive to administer.[/p][/quote]Why? If cars are lega,l and legally parked (not obstructing anyone's driveway) then what's the problem? Packed streets - so what?[/p][/quote]I agree, look at any street in Westclff, the cars parked there are bumper to bumper, time for the moaning mini locals to face facts, you live near an airport - get over it, if you want peace, move to Rayleigh...... Carnabackable
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4:36pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Nebs says...

Carnabackable wrote:
perini wrote:
rjsizzler wrote:
This is one of those situations where, in fact, something should probably be done. Yes, it's perfectly legal, but if certain roads are always full of cars then I can imagine how that would be annoying for residents. In the same way as parking is restricted around stations, Southend Hospital etc. it should be around the airport. These initiatives tend to be driven by money (to force people to pay to park on-site) so I expect it's only a matter of time before parking restrictions are put in place. All they'd need to do is set a restriction of an hour in the middle of the day. They could issue permits but that's way more expensive to administer.
Why? If cars are lega,l and legally parked (not obstructing anyone's driveway) then what's the problem? Packed streets - so what?
I agree, look at any street in Westclff, the cars parked there are bumper to bumper, time for the moaning mini locals to face facts, you live near an airport - get over it, if you want peace, move to Rayleigh......
Someone should start a website, where to park for free when using Southend Airport.
[quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]perini[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rjsizzler[/bold] wrote: This is one of those situations where, in fact, something should probably be done. Yes, it's perfectly legal, but if certain roads are always full of cars then I can imagine how that would be annoying for residents. In the same way as parking is restricted around stations, Southend Hospital etc. it should be around the airport. These initiatives tend to be driven by money (to force people to pay to park on-site) so I expect it's only a matter of time before parking restrictions are put in place. All they'd need to do is set a restriction of an hour in the middle of the day. They could issue permits but that's way more expensive to administer.[/p][/quote]Why? If cars are lega,l and legally parked (not obstructing anyone's driveway) then what's the problem? Packed streets - so what?[/p][/quote]I agree, look at any street in Westclff, the cars parked there are bumper to bumper, time for the moaning mini locals to face facts, you live near an airport - get over it, if you want peace, move to Rayleigh......[/p][/quote]Someone should start a website, where to park for free when using Southend Airport. Nebs
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4:42pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Max Impact says...

jayman wrote:
r6keith wrote:
This might be in convenient to people living near the airport but as long as the vehicles are legal the owners of them are breaking no laws by parking them there.I live just outside the controlled parking zone around the hospital and every week day now our road is cluttered with vechicles from people working or visiting the hospital.
surly busy streets that are packed with parked cars will effect house prices?

no, I'm sorry. busy streets packed with parked cars 'DO' effect house prices.
So I take it if somebody dares park outside your house you run out waving your fist telling them to move because a car that fully insured, taxed, MoT and is parked legally on the ope road not on any lines or blocking your driveway is devaluing your home.

As has been said if these cars are insured, taxed, have an MoT and are not on any type of road marking or blocking a driveway than what crime is being committed, please unless I am mistaken please may you tell me what crime has been committed, further more do any of your friends & family drive and do they park on roads outside other peoples homes.


Southend Airport even has David Beckham flying from and to it!
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]r6keith[/bold] wrote: This might be in convenient to people living near the airport but as long as the vehicles are legal the owners of them are breaking no laws by parking them there.I live just outside the controlled parking zone around the hospital and every week day now our road is cluttered with vechicles from people working or visiting the hospital.[/p][/quote]surly busy streets that are packed with parked cars will effect house prices? no, I'm sorry. busy streets packed with parked cars 'DO' effect house prices.[/p][/quote]So I take it if somebody dares park outside your house you run out waving your fist telling them to move because a car that fully insured, taxed, MoT and is parked legally on the ope road not on any lines or blocking your driveway is devaluing your home. As has been said if these cars are insured, taxed, have an MoT and are not on any type of road marking or blocking a driveway than what crime is being committed, please unless I am mistaken please may you tell me what crime has been committed, further more do any of your friends & family drive and do they park on roads outside other peoples homes. Southend Airport even has David Beckham flying from and to it! Max Impact
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4:47pm Wed 19 Dec 12

notinwestcliffanymore says...

rjsizzler wrote:
This is one of those situations where, in fact, something should probably be done. Yes, it's perfectly legal, but if certain roads are always full of cars then I can imagine how that would be annoying for residents. In the same way as parking is restricted around stations, Southend Hospital etc. it should be around the airport. These initiatives tend to be driven by money (to force people to pay to park on-site) so I expect it's only a matter of time before parking restrictions are put in place. All they'd need to do is set a restriction of an hour in the middle of the day. They could issue permits but that's way more expensive to administer.
That is the simple solution bas council are using in a billericay car park (more or less) yet some still moan and find fault..
..
People living in streets around the airport have reported vehicles being dumped for up to two weeks...
DUMPED are they, well tow them away. if they are taxed and legal they are not dumped. a inconvenient nuisance maybe.
[quote][p][bold]rjsizzler[/bold] wrote: This is one of those situations where, in fact, something should probably be done. Yes, it's perfectly legal, but if certain roads are always full of cars then I can imagine how that would be annoying for residents. In the same way as parking is restricted around stations, Southend Hospital etc. it should be around the airport. These initiatives tend to be driven by money (to force people to pay to park on-site) so I expect it's only a matter of time before parking restrictions are put in place. All they'd need to do is set a restriction of an hour in the middle of the day. They could issue permits but that's way more expensive to administer.[/p][/quote]That is the simple solution bas council are using in a billericay car park (more or less) yet some still moan and find fault.. .. People living in streets around the airport have reported vehicles being dumped for up to two weeks... DUMPED are they, well tow them away. if they are taxed and legal they are not dumped. a inconvenient nuisance maybe. notinwestcliffanymore
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5:28pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Antonius says...

Yes I know we are always told that it's quite legal to park you car outside of somebody's house, which is quite correct.

It's not until it happens to you on a regular basis, that you realize how annoying it can be. Especially when people coming to see you, have nowhere to park. Or your view is obstructed when coming out of your drive.
Yes I know we are always told that it's quite legal to park you car outside of somebody's house, which is quite correct. It's not until it happens to you on a regular basis, that you realize how annoying it can be. Especially when people coming to see you, have nowhere to park. Or your view is obstructed when coming out of your drive. Antonius
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5:28pm Wed 19 Dec 12

jayman says...

A Pedant wrote:
So, Jayman finally nails his colours to the mast - his completely anti-anything-to-do-

with-the-airport stance is nothing to do with the environment but quite simply down to the effect on the value of his property.
actually...

Its a combination of being totally against the very notion of the airport in its current form and a general distrust and loathing for everything southends' Tories and Tories in general do and stand for.
[quote][p][bold]A Pedant[/bold] wrote: So, Jayman finally nails his colours to the mast - his completely anti-anything-to-do- with-the-airport stance is nothing to do with the environment but quite simply down to the effect on the value of his property.[/p][/quote]actually... Its a combination of being totally against the very notion of the airport in its current form and a general distrust and loathing for everything southends' Tories and Tories in general do and stand for. jayman
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5:36pm Wed 19 Dec 12

jayman says...

Max Impact wrote:
jayman wrote:
r6keith wrote:
This might be in convenient to people living near the airport but as long as the vehicles are legal the owners of them are breaking no laws by parking them there.I live just outside the controlled parking zone around the hospital and every week day now our road is cluttered with vechicles from people working or visiting the hospital.
surly busy streets that are packed with parked cars will effect house prices?

no, I'm sorry. busy streets packed with parked cars 'DO' effect house prices.
So I take it if somebody dares park outside your house you run out waving your fist telling them to move because a car that fully insured, taxed, MoT and is parked legally on the ope road not on any lines or blocking your driveway is devaluing your home.

As has been said if these cars are insured, taxed, have an MoT and are not on any type of road marking or blocking a driveway than what crime is being committed, please unless I am mistaken please may you tell me what crime has been committed, further more do any of your friends & family drive and do they park on roads outside other peoples homes.


Southend Airport even has David Beckham flying from and to it!
well.

1. I don't own my home, I pay a vast sum of money to a scum bag landlord for the disadvantage of occupying the dilapidated space he apparently owns.

2. I don't own a car.

3. I don't use air travel.

so unlike yourself I can say with assurance the my stance and opinion is one of principle and unlike yourself I have nothing to gain or lose with regards to the airport and its future.
[quote][p][bold]Max Impact[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]r6keith[/bold] wrote: This might be in convenient to people living near the airport but as long as the vehicles are legal the owners of them are breaking no laws by parking them there.I live just outside the controlled parking zone around the hospital and every week day now our road is cluttered with vechicles from people working or visiting the hospital.[/p][/quote]surly busy streets that are packed with parked cars will effect house prices? no, I'm sorry. busy streets packed with parked cars 'DO' effect house prices.[/p][/quote]So I take it if somebody dares park outside your house you run out waving your fist telling them to move because a car that fully insured, taxed, MoT and is parked legally on the ope road not on any lines or blocking your driveway is devaluing your home. As has been said if these cars are insured, taxed, have an MoT and are not on any type of road marking or blocking a driveway than what crime is being committed, please unless I am mistaken please may you tell me what crime has been committed, further more do any of your friends & family drive and do they park on roads outside other peoples homes. Southend Airport even has David Beckham flying from and to it![/p][/quote]well. 1. I don't own my home, I pay a vast sum of money to a scum bag landlord for the disadvantage of occupying the dilapidated space he apparently owns. 2. I don't own a car. 3. I don't use air travel. so unlike yourself I can say with assurance the my stance and opinion is one of principle and unlike yourself I have nothing to gain or lose with regards to the airport and its future. jayman
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5:56pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Little John says...

I think the point is about cars left in a residential street near the airport is they won’t move and free up the space until the owner returns from a possible two week holiday. OK, in some cases it could be just for a few days. Thing is, when a car is moved on their return, the space will probably be taken up by another customer of the airport until they eventually return days later and the cycle begins again. Yes, I agree that there are no laws being broken but any company that is having an effect like this on its neighbours will surly receive complaints from them. It’s not like living near RBS or perhaps near the town centre where the drivers of the parked cars go home eventually at the end of the day freeing up spaces in residential roads for visitors etc. These spaces will be rarely freed up by drivers avoiding the charges to park at the airport meaning less or no parking left for the neighbour’s visitors. That is not fair to the nearby residents. As I said, not illegal but not fair.
I think the point is about cars left in a residential street near the airport is they won’t move and free up the space until the owner returns from a possible two week holiday. OK, in some cases it could be just for a few days. Thing is, when a car is moved on their return, the space will probably be taken up by another customer of the airport until they eventually return days later and the cycle begins again. Yes, I agree that there are no laws being broken but any company that is having an effect like this on its neighbours will surly receive complaints from them. It’s not like living near RBS or perhaps near the town centre where the drivers of the parked cars go home eventually at the end of the day freeing up spaces in residential roads for visitors etc. These spaces will be rarely freed up by drivers avoiding the charges to park at the airport meaning less or no parking left for the neighbour’s visitors. That is not fair to the nearby residents. As I said, not illegal but not fair. Little John
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6:07pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Max Impact says...

jayman wrote:
Max Impact wrote:
jayman wrote:
r6keith wrote:
This might be in convenient to people living near the airport but as long as the vehicles are legal the owners of them are breaking no laws by parking them there.I live just outside the controlled parking zone around the hospital and every week day now our road is cluttered with vechicles from people working or visiting the hospital.
surly busy streets that are packed with parked cars will effect house prices?

no, I'm sorry. busy streets packed with parked cars 'DO' effect house prices.
So I take it if somebody dares park outside your house you run out waving your fist telling them to move because a car that fully insured, taxed, MoT and is parked legally on the ope road not on any lines or blocking your driveway is devaluing your home.

As has been said if these cars are insured, taxed, have an MoT and are not on any type of road marking or blocking a driveway than what crime is being committed, please unless I am mistaken please may you tell me what crime has been committed, further more do any of your friends & family drive and do they park on roads outside other peoples homes.


Southend Airport even has David Beckham flying from and to it!
well.

1. I don't own my home, I pay a vast sum of money to a scum bag landlord for the disadvantage of occupying the dilapidated space he apparently owns.

2. I don't own a car.

3. I don't use air travel.

so unlike yourself I can say with assurance the my stance and opinion is one of principle and unlike yourself I have nothing to gain or lose with regards to the airport and its future.
I do own a couple of cars, I also own a few houses in Southend, the family home and three I rent out, they are kept in A1 condition as it is my belief that if the house looks good is warm, dry and secure than the people I rent to will be of reputable and honest nature, I do not use a letting agent as I do not like the way they operate.

So far (touch wood) I have not had any problems with tenants, as it is me and only me who chooses who moves in, all the houses are three bed family homes that I have kept as that family homes, for as long as I own them they will not become bedsits, all I ask the familys that move in is that they respect the neighbours, keep the gardens neat and tidy, I have a clause in the contract that if I get more than 5 complaints from the neighbours over a month than I can throw them out (the tenants not the neighbours!)


This next bit might shock you but...

Why not go through the fair rent tribunal service

http://www.justice.g
ov.uk/tribunals/resi
dential-property

I don't know if you live alone/partner/family or if you work local if not why not move opout of Southend and rent somewhere else.
If you rent than it is much more easy to up sticks,
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Max Impact[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]r6keith[/bold] wrote: This might be in convenient to people living near the airport but as long as the vehicles are legal the owners of them are breaking no laws by parking them there.I live just outside the controlled parking zone around the hospital and every week day now our road is cluttered with vechicles from people working or visiting the hospital.[/p][/quote]surly busy streets that are packed with parked cars will effect house prices? no, I'm sorry. busy streets packed with parked cars 'DO' effect house prices.[/p][/quote]So I take it if somebody dares park outside your house you run out waving your fist telling them to move because a car that fully insured, taxed, MoT and is parked legally on the ope road not on any lines or blocking your driveway is devaluing your home. As has been said if these cars are insured, taxed, have an MoT and are not on any type of road marking or blocking a driveway than what crime is being committed, please unless I am mistaken please may you tell me what crime has been committed, further more do any of your friends & family drive and do they park on roads outside other peoples homes. Southend Airport even has David Beckham flying from and to it![/p][/quote]well. 1. I don't own my home, I pay a vast sum of money to a scum bag landlord for the disadvantage of occupying the dilapidated space he apparently owns. 2. I don't own a car. 3. I don't use air travel. so unlike yourself I can say with assurance the my stance and opinion is one of principle and unlike yourself I have nothing to gain or lose with regards to the airport and its future.[/p][/quote]I do own a couple of cars, I also own a few houses in Southend, the family home and three I rent out, they are kept in A1 condition as it is my belief that if the house looks good is warm, dry and secure than the people I rent to will be of reputable and honest nature, I do not use a letting agent as I do not like the way they operate. So far (touch wood) I have not had any problems with tenants, as it is me and only me who chooses who moves in, all the houses are three bed family homes that I have kept as that family homes, for as long as I own them they will not become bedsits, all I ask the familys that move in is that they respect the neighbours, keep the gardens neat and tidy, I have a clause in the contract that if I get more than 5 complaints from the neighbours over a month than I can throw them out (the tenants not the neighbours!) This next bit might shock you but... Why not go through the fair rent tribunal service http://www.justice.g ov.uk/tribunals/resi dential-property I don't know if you live alone/partner/family or if you work local if not why not move opout of Southend and rent somewhere else. If you rent than it is much more easy to up sticks, Max Impact
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6:09pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Max Impact says...

Little John wrote:
I think the point is about cars left in a residential street near the airport is they won’t move and free up the space until the owner returns from a possible two week holiday. OK, in some cases it could be just for a few days. Thing is, when a car is moved on their return, the space will probably be taken up by another customer of the airport until they eventually return days later and the cycle begins again. Yes, I agree that there are no laws being broken but any company that is having an effect like this on its neighbours will surly receive complaints from them. It’s not like living near RBS or perhaps near the town centre where the drivers of the parked cars go home eventually at the end of the day freeing up spaces in residential roads for visitors etc. These spaces will be rarely freed up by drivers avoiding the charges to park at the airport meaning less or no parking left for the neighbour’s visitors. That is not fair to the nearby residents. As I said, not illegal but not fair.
Is there actually any proof that the cars being left are from people using the airport? What if they are going to London by train?

just a thought.
[quote][p][bold]Little John[/bold] wrote: I think the point is about cars left in a residential street near the airport is they won’t move and free up the space until the owner returns from a possible two week holiday. OK, in some cases it could be just for a few days. Thing is, when a car is moved on their return, the space will probably be taken up by another customer of the airport until they eventually return days later and the cycle begins again. Yes, I agree that there are no laws being broken but any company that is having an effect like this on its neighbours will surly receive complaints from them. It’s not like living near RBS or perhaps near the town centre where the drivers of the parked cars go home eventually at the end of the day freeing up spaces in residential roads for visitors etc. These spaces will be rarely freed up by drivers avoiding the charges to park at the airport meaning less or no parking left for the neighbour’s visitors. That is not fair to the nearby residents. As I said, not illegal but not fair.[/p][/quote]Is there actually any proof that the cars being left are from people using the airport? What if they are going to London by train? just a thought. Max Impact
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6:52pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Little John says...

Max Impact wrote:
Little John wrote:
I think the point is about cars left in a residential street near the airport is they won’t move and free up the space until the owner returns from a possible two week holiday. OK, in some cases it could be just for a few days. Thing is, when a car is moved on their return, the space will probably be taken up by another customer of the airport until they eventually return days later and the cycle begins again. Yes, I agree that there are no laws being broken but any company that is having an effect like this on its neighbours will surly receive complaints from them. It’s not like living near RBS or perhaps near the town centre where the drivers of the parked cars go home eventually at the end of the day freeing up spaces in residential roads for visitors etc. These spaces will be rarely freed up by drivers avoiding the charges to park at the airport meaning less or no parking left for the neighbour’s visitors. That is not fair to the nearby residents. As I said, not illegal but not fair.
Is there actually any proof that the cars being left are from people using the airport? What if they are going to London by train?

just a thought.
Max
I hadn't thought of that. I've got a good idea. Why don’t the council employ the services of a firm that specialises in compiling traffic statistics? A firm called Nationwide Data Collection comes to mind. Looks like SBC might need them after all.
[quote][p][bold]Max Impact[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Little John[/bold] wrote: I think the point is about cars left in a residential street near the airport is they won’t move and free up the space until the owner returns from a possible two week holiday. OK, in some cases it could be just for a few days. Thing is, when a car is moved on their return, the space will probably be taken up by another customer of the airport until they eventually return days later and the cycle begins again. Yes, I agree that there are no laws being broken but any company that is having an effect like this on its neighbours will surly receive complaints from them. It’s not like living near RBS or perhaps near the town centre where the drivers of the parked cars go home eventually at the end of the day freeing up spaces in residential roads for visitors etc. These spaces will be rarely freed up by drivers avoiding the charges to park at the airport meaning less or no parking left for the neighbour’s visitors. That is not fair to the nearby residents. As I said, not illegal but not fair.[/p][/quote]Is there actually any proof that the cars being left are from people using the airport? What if they are going to London by train? just a thought.[/p][/quote]Max I hadn't thought of that. I've got a good idea. Why don’t the council employ the services of a firm that specialises in compiling traffic statistics? A firm called Nationwide Data Collection comes to mind. Looks like SBC might need them after all. Little John
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7:08pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Carnabackable says...

At the end of the day, without residents parking controls in place, anyone with an insured/taxed car, van minibus etc can park quite legally, for as long as they so desire.
At the end of the day, without residents parking controls in place, anyone with an insured/taxed car, van minibus etc can park quite legally, for as long as they so desire. Carnabackable
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7:22pm Wed 19 Dec 12

notinwestcliffanymore says...

with all the compo people living this close are looking to get they can buy an ol banger to park outside their houses, thus always ensuring they have a parking space
with all the compo people living this close are looking to get they can buy an ol banger to park outside their houses, thus always ensuring they have a parking space notinwestcliffanymore
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7:28pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Max Impact says...

So this is a story reporting on cars that are parking quite legally on a public road and are fully insured, fully taxed and hold a valid MoT and not causing an obstruction to the carrageway...

So where is the story or is it just a bunch of nimbys who don't want anyone else but themselfs to park in their road as they are too lazy to walk a few feet to their cars.

Simple seek planning sermission to put a drive way in your front garden, pay for a drop kerb and BANG you have a parking space just for youeself.
So this is a story reporting on cars that are parking quite legally on a public road and are fully insured, fully taxed and hold a valid MoT and not causing an obstruction to the carrageway... So where is the story or is it just a bunch of nimbys who don't want anyone else but themselfs to park in their road as they are too lazy to walk a few feet to their cars. Simple seek planning sermission to put a drive way in your front garden, pay for a drop kerb and BANG you have a parking space just for youeself. Max Impact
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7:39pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Carnabackable says...

However most here might be surprised that it is NOT, a reportable offence to park over some ones driveway, look it up and be cross...
However most here might be surprised that it is NOT, a reportable offence to park over some ones driveway, look it up and be cross... Carnabackable
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8:05pm Wed 19 Dec 12

tricklesthegreek says...

If they are not blocking driveways and are parked legally (i.e. not on double yellows, not on corners, not overlapping driveways, taxed and insured) then there's nothing they can say about it. I don't know anyone that wouldn't do the same thing. What the issue is around the airport is now everyone trying to get onto the retail park blocks up the road all the time. It used to be reasonable needing to pop there to go and pick up pet food or something from Staples - now it's an utter headache and I dread it if I have to go there now. They need a second exit out of that carpark, but how and where that would work I wouldn't like to pretend to have an answer for. But that roundabout constantly gets bottlenecked.
If they are not blocking driveways and are parked legally (i.e. not on double yellows, not on corners, not overlapping driveways, taxed and insured) then there's nothing they can say about it. I don't know anyone that wouldn't do the same thing. What the issue is around the airport is now everyone trying to get onto the retail park blocks up the road all the time. It used to be reasonable needing to pop there to go and pick up pet food or something from Staples - now it's an utter headache and I dread it if I have to go there now. They need a second exit out of that carpark, but how and where that would work I wouldn't like to pretend to have an answer for. But that roundabout constantly gets bottlenecked. tricklesthegreek
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8:40pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Nebs says...

Carnabackable wrote:
However most here might be surprised that it is NOT, a reportable offence to park over some ones driveway, look it up and be cross...
I always thought it was an offence if you were stopping someone getting off their drive, but not if you were stopping them getting onto their drive.
[quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: However most here might be surprised that it is NOT, a reportable offence to park over some ones driveway, look it up and be cross...[/p][/quote]I always thought it was an offence if you were stopping someone getting off their drive, but not if you were stopping them getting onto their drive. Nebs
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9:33pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Carnabackable says...

Try getting a positive result once someone parks over you drive run in, call the police and listen to the answer...
Try getting a positive result once someone parks over you drive run in, call the police and listen to the answer... Carnabackable
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10:29pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Antonius says...

Carnabackable wrote:
At the end of the day, without residents parking controls in place, anyone with an insured/taxed car, van minibus etc can park quite legally, for as long as they so desire.
Nobody has questioned that, but it can still be an inconvenience.
We get people leaving cars and vans outside of our house every day, then the hockey girls turn up on Saturday, leaving their cars along the road. Even though there is a free car park close by.

It makes it very awkward if I want to get my car out, meaning a lot of shuffling around with car and work vehicle.
[quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: At the end of the day, without residents parking controls in place, anyone with an insured/taxed car, van minibus etc can park quite legally, for as long as they so desire.[/p][/quote]Nobody has questioned that, but it can still be an inconvenience. We get people leaving cars and vans outside of our house every day, then the hockey girls turn up on Saturday, leaving their cars along the road. Even though there is a free car park close by. It makes it very awkward if I want to get my car out, meaning a lot of shuffling around with car and work vehicle. Antonius
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10:31pm Wed 19 Dec 12

perini says...

Antonius wrote:
Yes I know we are always told that it's quite legal to park you car outside of somebody's house, which is quite correct.

It's not until it happens to you on a regular basis, that you realize how annoying it can be. Especially when people coming to see you, have nowhere to park. Or your view is obstructed when coming out of your drive.
So the view of parked cars is better when it's your visitors is it? Also, if you can't drive out of your drive (forwards, as it's illegal to reverse onto a highway) then maybe it's time to hang your license up?
[quote][p][bold]Antonius[/bold] wrote: Yes I know we are always told that it's quite legal to park you car outside of somebody's house, which is quite correct. It's not until it happens to you on a regular basis, that you realize how annoying it can be. Especially when people coming to see you, have nowhere to park. Or your view is obstructed when coming out of your drive.[/p][/quote]So the view of parked cars is better when it's your visitors is it? Also, if you can't drive out of your drive (forwards, as it's illegal to reverse onto a highway) then maybe it's time to hang your license up? perini
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10:31pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Antonius says...

Carnabackable wrote:
However most here might be surprised that it is NOT, a reportable offence to park over some ones driveway, look it up and be cross...
It is if your vehicle is parked on your drive, and you can't get it off.
[quote][p][bold]Carnabackable[/bold] wrote: However most here might be surprised that it is NOT, a reportable offence to park over some ones driveway, look it up and be cross...[/p][/quote]It is if your vehicle is parked on your drive, and you can't get it off. Antonius
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12:28am Thu 20 Dec 12

maddriver says...

Max Impact wrote:
So this is a story reporting on cars that are parking quite legally on a public road and are fully insured, fully taxed and hold a valid MoT and not causing an obstruction to the carrageway...

So where is the story or is it just a bunch of nimbys who don't want anyone else but themselfs to park in their road as they are too lazy to walk a few feet to their cars.

Simple seek planning sermission to put a drive way in your front garden, pay for a drop kerb and BANG you have a parking space just for youeself.
No this is not a story about legally parked cars. The story is about the local Council quite rightly taking steps to find out if their residents concerns are valid.
They will, when they have the completed survey then be able to take whatever action may be necessary. That includes doing nothing.
Perhaps if those who make a great point about the legality of it all were to read the story they would see that the legality or otherwise is not in question.
[quote][p][bold]Max Impact[/bold] wrote: So this is a story reporting on cars that are parking quite legally on a public road and are fully insured, fully taxed and hold a valid MoT and not causing an obstruction to the carrageway... So where is the story or is it just a bunch of nimbys who don't want anyone else but themselfs to park in their road as they are too lazy to walk a few feet to their cars. Simple seek planning sermission to put a drive way in your front garden, pay for a drop kerb and BANG you have a parking space just for youeself.[/p][/quote]No this is not a story about legally parked cars. The story is about the local Council quite rightly taking steps to find out if their residents concerns are valid. They will, when they have the completed survey then be able to take whatever action may be necessary. That includes doing nothing. Perhaps if those who make a great point about the legality of it all were to read the story they would see that the legality or otherwise is not in question. maddriver
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8:11am Thu 20 Dec 12

Max Impact says...

I wonder if those moaning about others parking outside their houses park outside other people's houses when they go out shopping, if they do is that double standards?
I wonder if those moaning about others parking outside their houses park outside other people's houses when they go out shopping, if they do is that double standards? Max Impact
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8:43am Thu 20 Dec 12

r6keith says...

Ian P wrote:
jayman wrote:
r6keith wrote: This might be in convenient to people living near the airport but as long as the vehicles are legal the owners of them are breaking no laws by parking them there.I live just outside the controlled parking zone around the hospital and every week day now our road is cluttered with vechicles from people working or visiting the hospital.
surly busy streets that are packed with parked cars will effect house prices? no, I'm sorry. busy streets packed with parked cars 'DO' effect house prices.
Are we to assume that you have never parked on the road outside someone's house, in case you impact the price of their house?
I not actually moaning about just making the point that this is not a problem isolated to the airport.
As you correctly assumed when I go out in my car I sometimes park legally outside someone elses house.
[quote][p][bold]Ian P[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]r6keith[/bold] wrote: This might be in convenient to people living near the airport but as long as the vehicles are legal the owners of them are breaking no laws by parking them there.I live just outside the controlled parking zone around the hospital and every week day now our road is cluttered with vechicles from people working or visiting the hospital.[/p][/quote]surly busy streets that are packed with parked cars will effect house prices? no, I'm sorry. busy streets packed with parked cars 'DO' effect house prices.[/p][/quote]Are we to assume that you have never parked on the road outside someone's house, in case you impact the price of their house?[/p][/quote]I not actually moaning about just making the point that this is not a problem isolated to the airport. As you correctly assumed when I go out in my car I sometimes park legally outside someone elses house. r6keith
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10:02am Thu 20 Dec 12

Antonius says...

Max Impact wrote:
I wonder if those moaning about others parking outside their houses park outside other people's houses when they go out shopping, if they do is that double standards?
It's one thing if the car is parked there for a short time, an hour or so.
Different when it's left there all day, or a week or more.
[quote][p][bold]Max Impact[/bold] wrote: I wonder if those moaning about others parking outside their houses park outside other people's houses when they go out shopping, if they do is that double standards?[/p][/quote]It's one thing if the car is parked there for a short time, an hour or so. Different when it's left there all day, or a week or more. Antonius
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10:04am Thu 20 Dec 12

Antonius says...

perini wrote:
Antonius wrote:
Yes I know we are always told that it's quite legal to park you car outside of somebody's house, which is quite correct.

It's not until it happens to you on a regular basis, that you realize how annoying it can be. Especially when people coming to see you, have nowhere to park. Or your view is obstructed when coming out of your drive.
So the view of parked cars is better when it's your visitors is it? Also, if you can't drive out of your drive (forwards, as it's illegal to reverse onto a highway) then maybe it's time to hang your license up?
Oh please, don't be a sill girl.
You make too many assumptions.
[quote][p][bold]perini[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Antonius[/bold] wrote: Yes I know we are always told that it's quite legal to park you car outside of somebody's house, which is quite correct. It's not until it happens to you on a regular basis, that you realize how annoying it can be. Especially when people coming to see you, have nowhere to park. Or your view is obstructed when coming out of your drive.[/p][/quote]So the view of parked cars is better when it's your visitors is it? Also, if you can't drive out of your drive (forwards, as it's illegal to reverse onto a highway) then maybe it's time to hang your license up?[/p][/quote]Oh please, don't be a sill girl. You make too many assumptions. Antonius
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12:06pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Max Impact says...

Antonius wrote:
Max Impact wrote:
I wonder if those moaning about others parking outside their houses park outside other people's houses when they go out shopping, if they do is that double standards?
It's one thing if the car is parked there for a short time, an hour or so.
Different when it's left there all day, or a week or more.
Not really, unless you have a designated parking bay, if not anyone can park legally outside my house your house anybody's house and leave the car for as long as they like, after all they are PUBLIC roads for the use of the public, as long as the car is not causing an obstruction and is fully taxed insured than what action can taken.
[quote][p][bold]Antonius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Max Impact[/bold] wrote: I wonder if those moaning about others parking outside their houses park outside other people's houses when they go out shopping, if they do is that double standards?[/p][/quote]It's one thing if the car is parked there for a short time, an hour or so. Different when it's left there all day, or a week or more.[/p][/quote]Not really, unless you have a designated parking bay, if not anyone can park legally outside my house your house anybody's house and leave the car for as long as they like, after all they are PUBLIC roads for the use of the public, as long as the car is not causing an obstruction and is fully taxed insured than what action can taken. Max Impact
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12:44pm Thu 20 Dec 12

perini says...

Antonius wrote:
perini wrote:
Antonius wrote: Yes I know we are always told that it's quite legal to park you car outside of somebody's house, which is quite correct. It's not until it happens to you on a regular basis, that you realize how annoying it can be. Especially when people coming to see you, have nowhere to park. Or your view is obstructed when coming out of your drive.
So the view of parked cars is better when it's your visitors is it? Also, if you can't drive out of your drive (forwards, as it's illegal to reverse onto a highway) then maybe it's time to hang your license up?
Oh please, don't be a sill girl. You make too many assumptions.
Ditto!
[quote][p][bold]Antonius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]perini[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Antonius[/bold] wrote: Yes I know we are always told that it's quite legal to park you car outside of somebody's house, which is quite correct. It's not until it happens to you on a regular basis, that you realize how annoying it can be. Especially when people coming to see you, have nowhere to park. Or your view is obstructed when coming out of your drive.[/p][/quote]So the view of parked cars is better when it's your visitors is it? Also, if you can't drive out of your drive (forwards, as it's illegal to reverse onto a highway) then maybe it's time to hang your license up?[/p][/quote]Oh please, don't be a sill girl. You make too many assumptions.[/p][/quote]Ditto! perini
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12:53pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Nebs says...

I hope the experts take into account, in their report, the fact that there are plenty of roads further away where parking is free but that are still within a £5 to £10 taxi ride to the airport, and compare that to the cost of airport parking for a week.
If you put in a residents scheme near to the airport then the problem will simply move to the next road available that is free, much the same as when the residents parking scheme was introduced around the hospital.
I hope the experts take into account, in their report, the fact that there are plenty of roads further away where parking is free but that are still within a £5 to £10 taxi ride to the airport, and compare that to the cost of airport parking for a week. If you put in a residents scheme near to the airport then the problem will simply move to the next road available that is free, much the same as when the residents parking scheme was introduced around the hospital. Nebs
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4:22pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Point-of-view says...

When the cars are left for a week at a time in the parking area for residents who have no driveways and can't park on the road in front of their houses because of the double yellow lines... then yes it is a BIG problem. Despite a sign up saying it is a private area for residents only, inconsiderate people (particularly the bloke with his shiny new black Jag) leave their cars for a week and the residents have to park down the road, rather annoying if you have an elderly mother and disabled son who both have difficulty walking.
When the cars are left for a week at a time in the parking area for residents who have no driveways and can't park on the road in front of their houses because of the double yellow lines... then yes it is a BIG problem. Despite a sign up saying it is a private area for residents only, inconsiderate people (particularly the bloke with his shiny new black Jag) leave their cars for a week and the residents have to park down the road, rather annoying if you have an elderly mother and disabled son who both have difficulty walking. Point-of-view
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4:58pm Thu 20 Dec 12

jolllyboy says...

This is a problem in many areas of the town - parents waiting to pick up children. Round the Hospital etc etc. it may not be illegal but when you are told you may not prevent someone parking outside your own home when you are having a hearse arriving to leave for a funeral then it is time to sort this problem out and that is the position now. Answers have to be found.
This is a problem in many areas of the town - parents waiting to pick up children. Round the Hospital etc etc. it may not be illegal but when you are told you may not prevent someone parking outside your own home when you are having a hearse arriving to leave for a funeral then it is time to sort this problem out and that is the position now. Answers have to be found. jolllyboy
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6:19pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Max Impact says...

jolllyboy wrote:
This is a problem in many areas of the town - parents waiting to pick up children. Round the Hospital etc etc. it may not be illegal but when you are told you may not prevent someone parking outside your own home when you are having a hearse arriving to leave for a funeral then it is time to sort this problem out and that is the position now. Answers have to be found.
A funeral director will normally place black cones outside a house a day or two before to let people know that space is needed most people would observe that fact.

You my (non) friend just have a grude against the airport, I'm shocked that you have not said the airport should pay for a residents permit scheme, talking of which I wonder if these "Don't park in our road as we are too lazy to walk anywhere brigade" will wany to pay fr a permit or will they expect if for free, anyone who want to park outside my house is welcome to do so, I have a driveway so don't need to worry about a parking space.
[quote][p][bold]jolllyboy[/bold] wrote: This is a problem in many areas of the town - parents waiting to pick up children. Round the Hospital etc etc. it may not be illegal but when you are told you may not prevent someone parking outside your own home when you are having a hearse arriving to leave for a funeral then it is time to sort this problem out and that is the position now. Answers have to be found.[/p][/quote]A funeral director will normally place black cones outside a house a day or two before to let people know that space is needed most people would observe that fact. You my (non) friend just have a grude against the airport, I'm shocked that you have not said the airport should pay for a residents permit scheme, talking of which I wonder if these "Don't park in our road as we are too lazy to walk anywhere brigade" will wany to pay fr a permit or will they expect if for free, anyone who want to park outside my house is welcome to do so, I have a driveway so don't need to worry about a parking space. Max Impact
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6:53pm Thu 20 Dec 12

jayman says...

Max Impact wrote:
jolllyboy wrote:
This is a problem in many areas of the town - parents waiting to pick up children. Round the Hospital etc etc. it may not be illegal but when you are told you may not prevent someone parking outside your own home when you are having a hearse arriving to leave for a funeral then it is time to sort this problem out and that is the position now. Answers have to be found.
A funeral director will normally place black cones outside a house a day or two before to let people know that space is needed most people would observe that fact.

You my (non) friend just have a grude against the airport, I'm shocked that you have not said the airport should pay for a residents permit scheme, talking of which I wonder if these "Don't park in our road as we are too lazy to walk anywhere brigade" will wany to pay fr a permit or will they expect if for free, anyone who want to park outside my house is welcome to do so, I have a driveway so don't need to worry about a parking space.
don't worry.

if anyone said such problems would occur prior to the expansion max would probably say that all the passengers would be arriving by 'train' and that there would be ample cheap parking for those travelling to the airport by car. he would also claim that no such surrounding car parking problems would occur and that it was just NIMBY-ism to raise any criticism or questions about the airport, the capability of the transport Infrastructure and the multiple impact of local residents.
[quote][p][bold]Max Impact[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jolllyboy[/bold] wrote: This is a problem in many areas of the town - parents waiting to pick up children. Round the Hospital etc etc. it may not be illegal but when you are told you may not prevent someone parking outside your own home when you are having a hearse arriving to leave for a funeral then it is time to sort this problem out and that is the position now. Answers have to be found.[/p][/quote]A funeral director will normally place black cones outside a house a day or two before to let people know that space is needed most people would observe that fact. You my (non) friend just have a grude against the airport, I'm shocked that you have not said the airport should pay for a residents permit scheme, talking of which I wonder if these "Don't park in our road as we are too lazy to walk anywhere brigade" will wany to pay fr a permit or will they expect if for free, anyone who want to park outside my house is welcome to do so, I have a driveway so don't need to worry about a parking space.[/p][/quote]don't worry. if anyone said such problems would occur prior to the expansion max would probably say that all the passengers would be arriving by 'train' and that there would be ample cheap parking for those travelling to the airport by car. he would also claim that no such surrounding car parking problems would occur and that it was just NIMBY-ism to raise any criticism or questions about the airport, the capability of the transport Infrastructure and the multiple impact of local residents. jayman
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6:53pm Thu 20 Dec 12

jayman says...

Max Impact wrote:
jolllyboy wrote:
This is a problem in many areas of the town - parents waiting to pick up children. Round the Hospital etc etc. it may not be illegal but when you are told you may not prevent someone parking outside your own home when you are having a hearse arriving to leave for a funeral then it is time to sort this problem out and that is the position now. Answers have to be found.
A funeral director will normally place black cones outside a house a day or two before to let people know that space is needed most people would observe that fact.

You my (non) friend just have a grude against the airport, I'm shocked that you have not said the airport should pay for a residents permit scheme, talking of which I wonder if these "Don't park in our road as we are too lazy to walk anywhere brigade" will wany to pay fr a permit or will they expect if for free, anyone who want to park outside my house is welcome to do so, I have a driveway so don't need to worry about a parking space.
don't worry.

if anyone said such problems would occur prior to the expansion max would probably say that all the passengers would be arriving by 'train' and that there would be ample cheap parking for those travelling to the airport by car. he would also claim that no such surrounding car parking problems would occur and that it was just NIMBY-ism to raise any criticism or questions about the airport, the capability of the transport Infrastructure and the multiple impact of local residents.
[quote][p][bold]Max Impact[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jolllyboy[/bold] wrote: This is a problem in many areas of the town - parents waiting to pick up children. Round the Hospital etc etc. it may not be illegal but when you are told you may not prevent someone parking outside your own home when you are having a hearse arriving to leave for a funeral then it is time to sort this problem out and that is the position now. Answers have to be found.[/p][/quote]A funeral director will normally place black cones outside a house a day or two before to let people know that space is needed most people would observe that fact. You my (non) friend just have a grude against the airport, I'm shocked that you have not said the airport should pay for a residents permit scheme, talking of which I wonder if these "Don't park in our road as we are too lazy to walk anywhere brigade" will wany to pay fr a permit or will they expect if for free, anyone who want to park outside my house is welcome to do so, I have a driveway so don't need to worry about a parking space.[/p][/quote]don't worry. if anyone said such problems would occur prior to the expansion max would probably say that all the passengers would be arriving by 'train' and that there would be ample cheap parking for those travelling to the airport by car. he would also claim that no such surrounding car parking problems would occur and that it was just NIMBY-ism to raise any criticism or questions about the airport, the capability of the transport Infrastructure and the multiple impact of local residents. jayman
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8:48am Mon 24 Dec 12

maxell says...

dont worry the traffic issues will change when the airport take over the airport business park and all the shops will go. I wondered why there has been no concern over the over 400% oversubscribed harp house roundabout. now we know the shops are to be shut down, many of you will will no doubt ask wheres the proof? "lets just say its a prediction" but mark my words.
dont worry the traffic issues will change when the airport take over the airport business park and all the shops will go. I wondered why there has been no concern over the over 400% oversubscribed harp house roundabout. now we know the shops are to be shut down, many of you will will no doubt ask wheres the proof? "lets just say its a prediction" but mark my words. maxell
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