Fears over work on proposed waste plant site

CAMPAIGNERS fear work to develop a controversial recycling depot is already underway before planning permission is approved.

Residents and politicians are concerned about the level of activity taking place on the land off Terminus Drive, Pitsea, including fencing off of the site and adding a demountable office.

Heard Environmental, based on Basildon’s Burnt Mills Industrial estate, has submitted a planning application for a waste transfer station to deal with 50,000 tonnes of recycling a year on the land.

However, it has yet to get the green light from county councillors with a decision not due until February.

Officers from County Hall planning department visited yesterday following a complaint.

The firm, which recycles demolition and skip waste, maintains it has not carried out any work yet which requires permisison.

Residents hope plans will not be approved amid complaints that Pitsea has had its fair share of waste sites.

Pitsea tip, a major landfill site for the region, will remain open until at least 2015, when a new large-scale rubbish treatment plant and recycling centre is set to open in Courtauld Road.

Mike Hodges, 70, from Pitsea Mount Community Association, said: “There is a lot of hardtsanding down there to cover the ground, a wood crusher to make it into pulp for chip board and it has all been fenced off, while a public footpath at the side is being cleared. I can’t see why they are going to that expense when there is no decision.”

Sandra Hillier, county councillor for Pitsea, will be on the development committee which makes the decision.

She said: “They have been working down there for some time and I have asked officers to go do and see what is going on. It is my understanding the committee will be in February and I have asked if a stop notice preventing any more development can be served.”

She said she had to keep an open mind as she was on the committee, but added: “I am yet to be convinced at the moment.”

The site was bought by Dean Buffoni, director of Bedrock Concrete, last year for £150,000.

Mark Woodger, planning agent for Heard Environmental, said: “The site has been fenced bit off with some surfacng, but no major building work. There is an office on the site to deter trasspassers, but it can be moved any time.”

He added it was a local business looking to expand, which would retain jobs and could create more and that the work so far was at the firm’s own risk before planning was approved.

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3:37pm Thu 17 Jan 13

emcee says...

Quote Mark Woodger: "It was a local business looking to expand, which would retain jobs and could create more..."
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Unlike some third world countries, we are not yet at the point of "jobs at any cost" (although some may argue otherwise). However, this is the stance many developers are now taking in order to get planning permission.
Now, I am not against anything that will recycle waste but, then again, I do not live near this proposed plant.
However, anything that will have a negative impact on the neighbouring community should never be given planning permission. I am not talking a few NIMBYs who may be unhappy but an entire community. Whether this recycling plant will have that sort of impact I do not know but no planning permission should be granted based purely on the basis of job creation speculation. How about Mark Woodger let the community in on what the other benefits for the plant would be by being situated where it is (apart fron the obvious environmental recycling spin and the fact that the company running it will make an awful lot of money). What will the community, immediately surrounding the plant, gain from it? I suspect nothing.
Quote Mark Woodger: "It was a local business looking to expand, which would retain jobs and could create more..." - Unlike some third world countries, we are not yet at the point of "jobs at any cost" (although some may argue otherwise). However, this is the stance many developers are now taking in order to get planning permission. Now, I am not against anything that will recycle waste but, then again, I do not live near this proposed plant. However, anything that will have a negative impact on the neighbouring community should never be given planning permission. I am not talking a few NIMBYs who may be unhappy but an entire community. Whether this recycling plant will have that sort of impact I do not know but no planning permission should be granted based purely on the basis of job creation speculation. How about Mark Woodger let the community in on what the other benefits for the plant would be by being situated where it is (apart fron the obvious environmental recycling spin and the fact that the company running it will make an awful lot of money). What will the community, immediately surrounding the plant, gain from it? I suspect nothing. emcee
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4:20pm Thu 17 Jan 13

whataday says...

they'll probably get more of the stink thats already around in that area
they'll probably get more of the stink thats already around in that area whataday
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4:57pm Thu 17 Jan 13

Eric Whim says...

whataday wrote:
they'll probably get more of the stink thats already around in that area
might even mask some of the smell from the nearby water treatment works....
[quote][p][bold]whataday[/bold] wrote: they'll probably get more of the stink thats already around in that area[/p][/quote]might even mask some of the smell from the nearby water treatment works.... Eric Whim
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7:15pm Thu 17 Jan 13

Devils Advocate says...

There is a point in consulting the locals? I think most of the locals are used to the idea that the Council could put a little market stall with some placard displays in the Eastgate centre, thereby fully consulting with the people who live there, and then go ahead and do exactly as they pleased, just as they are doing with the Basildon town centre and parkland sell offs.
Why bother? save the money to further improve Wickford memorial park, or find another field in Billericay to get blessed by Her Majesty in perpetuum.
There is a point in consulting the locals? I think most of the locals are used to the idea that the Council could put a little market stall with some placard displays in the Eastgate centre, thereby fully consulting with the people who live there, and then go ahead and do exactly as they pleased, just as they are doing with the Basildon town centre and parkland sell offs. Why bother? save the money to further improve Wickford memorial park, or find another field in Billericay to get blessed by Her Majesty in perpetuum. Devils Advocate
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7:26pm Thu 17 Jan 13

Marie b says...

I see the story in paper yesterday, the picture of the 2 x 'Campaigners' (JOKE THAT IS!) did make me laugh with their feeble attempts to look defiant! LOL!.....They looked more like a couple of elderly train spotters who have too much time o their hands....what a couple of sad N.I.M.B.Y.'s!....No one made you live in Pitsea, if you don't like it MOVE!!....the tip and all the other industrial sites were there when you decided to move in !....its hardly rural is it....I should know, unfortunatley i live here and not far from the site unlike person above making stupid comments like:......what does local community get out of it, you answered your own question..JOBS!!!...
Oh sorry I forget what a vibrant wealthy jobs in the plenty place Pitsea is!....but what do you care Emcee you're probably retired or on benefits anyway!
I see the story in paper yesterday, the picture of the 2 x 'Campaigners' (JOKE THAT IS!) did make me laugh with their feeble attempts to look defiant! LOL!.....They looked more like a couple of elderly train spotters who have too much time o their hands....what a couple of sad N.I.M.B.Y.'s!....No one made you live in Pitsea, if you don't like it MOVE!!....the tip and all the other industrial sites were there when you decided to move in !....its hardly rural is it....I should know, unfortunatley i live here and not far from the site unlike person above making stupid comments like:......what does local community get out of it, you answered your own question..JOBS!!!... Oh sorry I forget what a vibrant wealthy jobs in the plenty place Pitsea is!....but what do you care Emcee you're probably retired or on benefits anyway! Marie b
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12:04am Fri 18 Jan 13

emcee says...

Marie b wrote:
I see the story in paper yesterday, the picture of the 2 x 'Campaigners' (JOKE THAT IS!) did make me laugh with their feeble attempts to look defiant! LOL!.....They looked more like a couple of elderly train spotters who have too much time o their hands....what a couple of sad N.I.M.B.Y.'s!....No one made you live in Pitsea, if you don't like it MOVE!!....the tip and all the other industrial sites were there when you decided to move in !....its hardly rural is it....I should know, unfortunatley i live here and not far from the site unlike person above making stupid comments like:......what does local community get out of it, you answered your own question..JOBS!!!...

Oh sorry I forget what a vibrant wealthy jobs in the plenty place Pitsea is!....but what do you care Emcee you're probably retired or on benefits anyway!
Sounds like someone needs to learn to read properly.
Try again.
[quote][p][bold]Marie b[/bold] wrote: I see the story in paper yesterday, the picture of the 2 x 'Campaigners' (JOKE THAT IS!) did make me laugh with their feeble attempts to look defiant! LOL!.....They looked more like a couple of elderly train spotters who have too much time o their hands....what a couple of sad N.I.M.B.Y.'s!....No one made you live in Pitsea, if you don't like it MOVE!!....the tip and all the other industrial sites were there when you decided to move in !....its hardly rural is it....I should know, unfortunatley i live here and not far from the site unlike person above making stupid comments like:......what does local community get out of it, you answered your own question..JOBS!!!... Oh sorry I forget what a vibrant wealthy jobs in the plenty place Pitsea is!....but what do you care Emcee you're probably retired or on benefits anyway![/p][/quote]Sounds like someone needs to learn to read properly. Try again. emcee
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9:50am Fri 18 Jan 13

InTheKnowOk says...

Why can't we comment on the two stories regarding Dale Farm ???
Why can't we comment on the two stories regarding Dale Farm ??? InTheKnowOk
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11:23am Fri 18 Jan 13

Marie b says...

I don't think so somehow Emcee, your point is clear enough with your previous post.

As to previous comments as to Dale farm lot & stories you're dead right 'In the know ok'.....if the local NIMBYS get there way with objecting to waste company setting up recycling site we'll end up with the Dale farm lot on the site....they tried before as anyone local knows & SHOULD remember, I know what I'd prefer to see happen to the site as to my neighbours & friends.....and thanks to the ECHO story above the travellers now know how much to buy the land for!!..Well done ECHO & local Councillors (Cllr Sandra Hilier & Keith Bobbin) for moaning !, you people really don't think things out do you before you get on phone moaning & finger pointing at places you don't even live near!...do you have that much time on your hands??....If travellers ended up on site if waste firm pulled out you'be be kicking yourselves then wouldn't you...& one would imagine you would NOT be very well thought of or popular then woudl you!!!!
I don't think so somehow Emcee, your point is clear enough with your previous post. As to previous comments as to Dale farm lot & stories you're dead right 'In the know ok'.....if the local NIMBYS get there way with objecting to waste company setting up recycling site we'll end up with the Dale farm lot on the site....they tried before as anyone local knows & SHOULD remember, I know what I'd prefer to see happen to the site as to my neighbours & friends.....and thanks to the ECHO story above the travellers now know how much to buy the land for!!..Well done ECHO & local Councillors (Cllr Sandra Hilier & Keith Bobbin) for moaning !, you people really don't think things out do you before you get on phone moaning & finger pointing at places you don't even live near!...do you have that much time on your hands??....If travellers ended up on site if waste firm pulled out you'be be kicking yourselves then wouldn't you...& one would imagine you would NOT be very well thought of or popular then woudl you!!!! Marie b
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1:00pm Fri 18 Jan 13

Tom from Southend says...

The site has been there for months and its only just been noticed ? In my naivety I thought it would be legitimate. However not. Therefore kick em off. If it was an illegal house extension then I am sure the Council would have come down on us like a ton of bricks. Not fair. Kick em off and revoke all licences and applications. Stick to the rules. Mark Woodger your explanation is pathetic. Its for increasing profit at the cost of the local community, planning rules and basic decency!
The site has been there for months and its only just been noticed ? In my naivety I thought it would be legitimate. However not. Therefore kick em off. If it was an illegal house extension then I am sure the Council would have come down on us like a ton of bricks. Not fair. Kick em off and revoke all licences and applications. Stick to the rules. Mark Woodger your explanation is pathetic. Its for increasing profit at the cost of the local community, planning rules and basic decency! Tom from Southend
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6:15pm Fri 18 Jan 13

Marie b says...

To 'Tom from Southend' (Doesn't really concern you then does it!)

Your comments are deserving of the word pathetic!

You obviously have not got a clue what your posting comments about have you, see here's the thing you & it seem the 'Nimbys' don't get or realize, the company there aren't actually doing anything illegal or wrong by 'planning rules' as you state....you said it yourself, yes you are naive & your post clearly shows that.
To 'Tom from Southend' (Doesn't really concern you then does it!) Your comments are deserving of the word pathetic! You obviously have not got a clue what your posting comments about have you, see here's the thing you & it seem the 'Nimbys' don't get or realize, the company there aren't actually doing anything illegal or wrong by 'planning rules' as you state....you said it yourself, yes you are naive & your post clearly shows that. Marie b
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10:27am Mon 21 Jan 13

Tom from Southend says...

Marie b wrote:
To 'Tom from Southend' (Doesn't really concern you then does it!)

Your comments are deserving of the word pathetic!

You obviously have not got a clue what your posting comments about have you, see here's the thing you & it seem the 'Nimbys' don't get or realize, the company there aren't actually doing anything illegal or wrong by 'planning rules' as you state....you said it yourself, yes you are naive & your post clearly shows that.
Marie b..What are you on about. I may well live in Southend but I am a daily visitor to this part of the world due to my work, therefore it does impact upon my life. Read the article as well "However, it has yet to get the green light from county councillors with a decision not due until February". If you want to condone Companies running their business outside of normal practice, general decency or consideration for others then fine thats your call but do not call me naive, concerned yes, caring yes and I find it sad that there is no consideration of the planning process by Heard. Its profits over decency. Be careful what you say and read the article and my original post again.
[quote][p][bold]Marie b[/bold] wrote: To 'Tom from Southend' (Doesn't really concern you then does it!) Your comments are deserving of the word pathetic! You obviously have not got a clue what your posting comments about have you, see here's the thing you & it seem the 'Nimbys' don't get or realize, the company there aren't actually doing anything illegal or wrong by 'planning rules' as you state....you said it yourself, yes you are naive & your post clearly shows that.[/p][/quote]Marie b..What are you on about. I may well live in Southend but I am a daily visitor to this part of the world due to my work, therefore it does impact upon my life. Read the article as well "However, it has yet to get the green light from county councillors with a decision not due until February". If you want to condone Companies running their business outside of normal practice, general decency or consideration for others then fine thats your call but do not call me naive, concerned yes, caring yes and I find it sad that there is no consideration of the planning process by Heard. Its profits over decency. Be careful what you say and read the article and my original post again. Tom from Southend
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1:32pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Devils Advocate says...

Marie b wrote:
To 'Tom from Southend' (Doesn't really concern you then does it!)

Your comments are deserving of the word pathetic!

You obviously have not got a clue what your posting comments about have you, see here's the thing you & it seem the 'Nimbys' don't get or realize, the company there aren't actually doing anything illegal or wrong by 'planning rules' as you state....you said it yourself, yes you are naive & your post clearly shows that.
Marie b:

You make much of the Acronym "Nimbys" but I wonder if you actually know that as a fact about the people opposed to the plant. I am totally against this kind of plant that is going to be built here or anywhere else, but it will be built here whether I or anyone else likes it, for that is how democracy works in this country now.
However, you are attempting to convince people that NIMBY's are what anyone who opposes the plant are, so perhaps you could offer two things to this discussion.
1. Where do you live in relation to the plant?
2. Have you a vested interest in its installation and, if so, if you live a safe distance from it, would you consider having it built within, say, one mile from your door?
[quote][p][bold]Marie b[/bold] wrote: To 'Tom from Southend' (Doesn't really concern you then does it!) Your comments are deserving of the word pathetic! You obviously have not got a clue what your posting comments about have you, see here's the thing you & it seem the 'Nimbys' don't get or realize, the company there aren't actually doing anything illegal or wrong by 'planning rules' as you state....you said it yourself, yes you are naive & your post clearly shows that.[/p][/quote]Marie b: You make much of the Acronym "Nimbys" but I wonder if you actually know that as a fact about the people opposed to the plant. I am totally against this kind of plant that is going to be built here or anywhere else, but it will be built here whether I or anyone else likes it, for that is how democracy works in this country now. However, you are attempting to convince people that NIMBY's are what anyone who opposes the plant are, so perhaps you could offer two things to this discussion. 1. Where do you live in relation to the plant? 2. Have you a vested interest in its installation and, if so, if you live a safe distance from it, would you consider having it built within, say, one mile from your door? Devils Advocate
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7:04pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Marie b says...

To answer your 'Democracy' point, what are you talking about??...you make it sound like the company want to build a incinerator plant on the site which if you read the plans they are clearly not....and how can you say you are against it there or anywhere??....I take it your one of those clever 'consumer' human beings then who does not create 'waste' or use a bin or a skip ever??(Yeah right!)...no don't tell me you either compost it in your garden or you take it all down the 'Civic amenity site' (A waste transfer & segregation site which is essence the same as what company want to do on Terminus Drive!).......yes thats right just like the one already in Pitsea Hall Lane that EVERYONE uses when it suits them to at a cost to us the tax payers ultimately.

And to answer question 1: I live in Chestnut Road, Pitsea so I am close by so I know what I'm talking about & it does effect me, as previously stated I'd rather anything than the travellers who nearly got on this site & ruined I & my neighbours lives!

And as to question 2. My 22 year old Nephew & 2 of his friends work for company and they have done for a few years now.

I'm just glad as my Brother is that these lads have got regular work, there's not much else going on & if it doesn't effect me where i live I don't see why the 2 x elderly people in Brackendale Avenue are moaning, I chose to live here, if I could afford to move to somewhere less Industrial & quieter I would believe me, as someone else posted on first story 'its hardly Kew Gardens is it'...hate to admit it but its true!...if it was not a suitable location don't you think Crossrail / Network rail would not have had the site reserved for waste transfer purposes for last 12 years until they sold it in 2011.
To answer your 'Democracy' point, what are you talking about??...you make it sound like the company want to build a incinerator plant on the site which if you read the plans they are clearly not....and how can you say you are against it there or anywhere??....I take it your one of those clever 'consumer' human beings then who does not create 'waste' or use a bin or a skip ever??(Yeah right!)...no don't tell me you either compost it in your garden or you take it all down the 'Civic amenity site' (A waste transfer & segregation site which is essence the same as what company want to do on Terminus Drive!).......yes thats right just like the one already in Pitsea Hall Lane that EVERYONE uses when it suits them to at a cost to us the tax payers ultimately. And to answer question 1: I live in Chestnut Road, Pitsea so I am close by so I know what I'm talking about & it does effect me, as previously stated I'd rather anything than the travellers who nearly got on this site & ruined I & my neighbours lives! And as to question 2. My 22 year old Nephew & 2 of his friends work for company and they have done for a few years now. I'm just glad as my Brother is that these lads have got regular work, there's not much else going on & if it doesn't effect me where i live I don't see why the 2 x elderly people in Brackendale Avenue are moaning, I chose to live here, if I could afford to move to somewhere less Industrial & quieter I would believe me, as someone else posted on first story 'its hardly Kew Gardens is it'...hate to admit it but its true!...if it was not a suitable location don't you think Crossrail / Network rail would not have had the site reserved for waste transfer purposes for last 12 years until they sold it in 2011. Marie b
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9:29pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Devils Advocate says...

Marie b wrote:
To answer your 'Democracy' point, what are you talking about??...you make it sound like the company want to build a incinerator plant on the site which if you read the plans they are clearly not....and how can you say you are against it there or anywhere??....I take it your one of those clever 'consumer' human beings then who does not create 'waste' or use a bin or a skip ever??(Yeah right!)...no don't tell me you either compost it in your garden or you take it all down the 'Civic amenity site' (A waste transfer & segregation site which is essence the same as what company want to do on Terminus Drive!).......yes thats right just like the one already in Pitsea Hall Lane that EVERYONE uses when it suits them to at a cost to us the tax payers ultimately.

And to answer question 1: I live in Chestnut Road, Pitsea so I am close by so I know what I'm talking about & it does effect me, as previously stated I'd rather anything than the travellers who nearly got on this site & ruined I & my neighbours lives!

And as to question 2. My 22 year old Nephew & 2 of his friends work for company and they have done for a few years now.

I'm just glad as my Brother is that these lads have got regular work, there's not much else going on & if it doesn't effect me where i live I don't see why the 2 x elderly people in Brackendale Avenue are moaning, I chose to live here, if I could afford to move to somewhere less Industrial & quieter I would believe me, as someone else posted on first story 'its hardly Kew Gardens is it'...hate to admit it but its true!...if it was not a suitable location don't you think Crossrail / Network rail would not have had the site reserved for waste transfer purposes for last 12 years until they sold it in 2011.
Oh no! I've got to grovel. I thought this was about the incinerator we are supposed to be getting. Please ignore my post, I spotted the "Burnt Mills road" and did not even read the article.

Apologies to Marie b. I got the wrong rubbish, I did not read the article properly, sorry if I upset you, I have no problem with waste transfer stations, I helped set one up in Canning town, and can not see anything wrong with them.

I just do not think democracy was used when deciding the Burnt Mills Incinerator site, nothing else.
[quote][p][bold]Marie b[/bold] wrote: To answer your 'Democracy' point, what are you talking about??...you make it sound like the company want to build a incinerator plant on the site which if you read the plans they are clearly not....and how can you say you are against it there or anywhere??....I take it your one of those clever 'consumer' human beings then who does not create 'waste' or use a bin or a skip ever??(Yeah right!)...no don't tell me you either compost it in your garden or you take it all down the 'Civic amenity site' (A waste transfer & segregation site which is essence the same as what company want to do on Terminus Drive!).......yes thats right just like the one already in Pitsea Hall Lane that EVERYONE uses when it suits them to at a cost to us the tax payers ultimately. And to answer question 1: I live in Chestnut Road, Pitsea so I am close by so I know what I'm talking about & it does effect me, as previously stated I'd rather anything than the travellers who nearly got on this site & ruined I & my neighbours lives! And as to question 2. My 22 year old Nephew & 2 of his friends work for company and they have done for a few years now. I'm just glad as my Brother is that these lads have got regular work, there's not much else going on & if it doesn't effect me where i live I don't see why the 2 x elderly people in Brackendale Avenue are moaning, I chose to live here, if I could afford to move to somewhere less Industrial & quieter I would believe me, as someone else posted on first story 'its hardly Kew Gardens is it'...hate to admit it but its true!...if it was not a suitable location don't you think Crossrail / Network rail would not have had the site reserved for waste transfer purposes for last 12 years until they sold it in 2011.[/p][/quote]Oh no! I've got to grovel. I thought this was about the incinerator we are supposed to be getting. Please ignore my post, I spotted the "Burnt Mills road" and did not even read the article. Apologies to Marie b. I got the wrong rubbish, I did not read the article properly, sorry if I upset you, I have no problem with waste transfer stations, I helped set one up in Canning town, and can not see anything wrong with them. I just do not think democracy was used when deciding the Burnt Mills Incinerator site, nothing else. Devils Advocate
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7:53pm Tue 22 Jan 13

Marie b says...

No Problem whatsoever, appreciate your honesty & apology in post reply, fair play to you!!
No Problem whatsoever, appreciate your honesty & apology in post reply, fair play to you!! Marie b
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8:04pm Tue 22 Jan 13

Devils Advocate says...

Marie b wrote:
No Problem whatsoever, appreciate your honesty & apology in post reply, fair play to you!!
Thank you, and I will learn to read the whole article!
[quote][p][bold]Marie b[/bold] wrote: No Problem whatsoever, appreciate your honesty & apology in post reply, fair play to you!![/p][/quote]Thank you, and I will learn to read the whole article! Devils Advocate
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