Last-minute effort to stop street lights going out

Echo: Last-minute effort to stop street lights going out Last-minute effort to stop street lights going out

CONTROVERSIAL plans to plunge Castle Point into darkness could be delayed again.

The majority of street lights in the borough are set to be switched off later this month as part of Essex County Council’s proposals to cut costs and carbon emissions across the county.

The plans will save County Hall just £64,000 in the Castle Point constituency. In Canvey alone, that figure is about £20,000.

The switch-off has sparked outrage among residents and councillors, who fear it will lead to a rise in crime.

Now, Canvey county councillor Dave Blackwell has said he will lobby members of County Hall’s place services and economic growth scrutiny committee to back a call in for the decision to be looked at again.

This comes after the council already postponed the switch-off by a week, to December 9, to give residents and councillors more time to review the plans.

Mr Blackwell said: “Everyone is unhappy about these proposals.

It’s all about saving money, but some things are just more important.

“How can you say one street can keep their lights on and yet another one can’t?

“The whole consultation has been a sham. The majority of people have not been able to have their say and what really annoys me is the plans have been so poorly publicised there are still lots of people who don’t even know the lights are going off. It’s just outrageous.”

Mr Blackwell is putting together a portfolio of evidence.

He claims he can prove, among other things, car crime and burglary has gone up in places such as Maldon and Uttlesford where the lights have already been turned off.

He hopes a demand for a call-in will be backed by Thundersley county councillor Jamie Huntsman and Loughton county councillor Chris Pond, who both sit on the committee.

Mr Huntsman has already publically denounced the plans, claiming it would be like living in the Middle Ages, rather than the 21st century.

Mr Blackwell said: “County Hall has not looked properly at how crime has been affected by the street lights. Figures prove some crimes have gone up to above the national average in areas where the lights are off.

“I’ve already spoken to county councillor Chris Pond, who will be calling in the decision for his own district Loughton, which will have its lights turned off at the same time as ours, so I’m sure he will support us. If not, I’m sure county councillor Jamie Huntsman will also agree as a local member.”

The county council confirmed it had received a request for a call-in over night lighting and a vote would be taken on it.

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7:32am Tue 3 Dec 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...

Castle pointers should take a drive along London Road (Leigh)....we have some of our Street lights on 24 hours a day, bet your envious
Castle pointers should take a drive along London Road (Leigh)....we have some of our Street lights on 24 hours a day, bet your envious DogsMessInLeigh

9:21am Tue 3 Dec 13

alien12 says...

Change all the streetlights to leds with motion sensors. Leds use far less energy and turn on instantly, unlike the sodium lamps currently in use.
Change all the streetlights to leds with motion sensors. Leds use far less energy and turn on instantly, unlike the sodium lamps currently in use. alien12

9:47am Tue 3 Dec 13

bazza 1 says...

alien12 wrote:
Change all the streetlights to leds with motion sensors. Leds use far less energy and turn on instantly, unlike the sodium lamps currently in use.
Keep E Mailing Essex Council with complaints regarding the switch off. We are their employers, and we should let them know we don't like the switch off.
[quote][p][bold]alien12[/bold] wrote: Change all the streetlights to leds with motion sensors. Leds use far less energy and turn on instantly, unlike the sodium lamps currently in use.[/p][/quote]Keep E Mailing Essex Council with complaints regarding the switch off. We are their employers, and we should let them know we don't like the switch off. bazza 1

10:53am Tue 3 Dec 13

upset says...

DB should check Furtherwick Road Christmas tree and street lights are on all day as well!!!
DB should check Furtherwick Road Christmas tree and street lights are on all day as well!!! upset

12:02pm Tue 3 Dec 13

John T Pharro says...

alien12 wrote:
Change all the streetlights to leds with motion sensors. Leds use far less energy and turn on instantly, unlike the sodium lamps currently in use.
Sounds good on the face of it. Any idea how much it would cost to change all the lights to have motion sensors? However it certainly makes sense to at the very least change them to LEDs at the very least when requiring changing and to find out how much to change them all to LED. Maybe solar powered too if cost effective.
[quote][p][bold]alien12[/bold] wrote: Change all the streetlights to leds with motion sensors. Leds use far less energy and turn on instantly, unlike the sodium lamps currently in use.[/p][/quote]Sounds good on the face of it. Any idea how much it would cost to change all the lights to have motion sensors? However it certainly makes sense to at the very least change them to LEDs at the very least when requiring changing and to find out how much to change them all to LED. Maybe solar powered too if cost effective. John T Pharro

1:31pm Tue 3 Dec 13

pembury53 says...

alien12 wrote:
Change all the streetlights to leds with motion sensors. Leds use far less energy and turn on instantly, unlike the sodium lamps currently in use.
unfortunately that isn't quite right. low pressure sodium lamps used for street lights are still the most efficient available, but give no colour rendition. LED might be the most effecient white light source, but only by a fraction, if at all, when compared to gas discharge lamps.
[quote][p][bold]alien12[/bold] wrote: Change all the streetlights to leds with motion sensors. Leds use far less energy and turn on instantly, unlike the sodium lamps currently in use.[/p][/quote]unfortunately that isn't quite right. low pressure sodium lamps used for street lights are still the most efficient available, but give no colour rendition. LED might be the most effecient white light source, but only by a fraction, if at all, when compared to gas discharge lamps. pembury53

5:06pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Fcuk Da Police says...

I'm looking forward to the lights switching off. I don't know why everyone is moaning for. Most people will be fast asleep between 12-5 anyway.
I'm looking forward to the lights switching off. I don't know why everyone is moaning for. Most people will be fast asleep between 12-5 anyway. Fcuk Da Police

5:13pm Tue 3 Dec 13

alien12 says...

pembury53 wrote:
alien12 wrote:
Change all the streetlights to leds with motion sensors. Leds use far less energy and turn on instantly, unlike the sodium lamps currently in use.
unfortunately that isn't quite right. low pressure sodium lamps used for street lights are still the most efficient available, but give no colour rendition. LED might be the most effecient white light source, but only by a fraction, if at all, when compared to gas discharge lamps.
A 50 watt led array would be equivalent to 400 watt sodium lamp, it doesn't get nearly as hot and is instant on, has a life span of 11 years continuous use. No comparison really. With motion sensors it would only come on when needed. Less light pollution, far less running costs.
[quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alien12[/bold] wrote: Change all the streetlights to leds with motion sensors. Leds use far less energy and turn on instantly, unlike the sodium lamps currently in use.[/p][/quote]unfortunately that isn't quite right. low pressure sodium lamps used for street lights are still the most efficient available, but give no colour rendition. LED might be the most effecient white light source, but only by a fraction, if at all, when compared to gas discharge lamps.[/p][/quote]A 50 watt led array would be equivalent to 400 watt sodium lamp, it doesn't get nearly as hot and is instant on, has a life span of 11 years continuous use. No comparison really. With motion sensors it would only come on when needed. Less light pollution, far less running costs. alien12

6:07pm Tue 3 Dec 13

MrFrogFace says...

upset wrote:
DB should check Furtherwick Road Christmas tree and street lights are on all day as well!!!
Pathetic !!
How can you compare LED xmas lights to street lights !!
[quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: DB should check Furtherwick Road Christmas tree and street lights are on all day as well!!![/p][/quote]Pathetic !! How can you compare LED xmas lights to street lights !! MrFrogFace

6:21pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

Without the obvious concerns of urban housing estates, becoming a possible muggers paradise, on the roads, will we see full beam drivers, blinding each other, as we all like to see ahead, further than those dipped headlights...
Without the obvious concerns of urban housing estates, becoming a possible muggers paradise, on the roads, will we see full beam drivers, blinding each other, as we all like to see ahead, further than those dipped headlights... Nowthatsworthknowing

11:18pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

John T Pharro wrote:
alien12 wrote:
Change all the streetlights to leds with motion sensors. Leds use far less energy and turn on instantly, unlike the sodium lamps currently in use.
Sounds good on the face of it. Any idea how much it would cost to change all the lights to have motion sensors? However it certainly makes sense to at the very least change them to LEDs at the very least when requiring changing and to find out how much to change them all to LED. Maybe solar powered too if cost effective.
Go back to the OAP centre, your outa yer depth....
[quote][p][bold]John T Pharro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alien12[/bold] wrote: Change all the streetlights to leds with motion sensors. Leds use far less energy and turn on instantly, unlike the sodium lamps currently in use.[/p][/quote]Sounds good on the face of it. Any idea how much it would cost to change all the lights to have motion sensors? However it certainly makes sense to at the very least change them to LEDs at the very least when requiring changing and to find out how much to change them all to LED. Maybe solar powered too if cost effective.[/p][/quote]Go back to the OAP centre, your outa yer depth.... Nowthatsworthknowing

10:27am Wed 4 Dec 13

Fred the Phoenix says...

pembury53 wrote:
alien12 wrote:
Change all the streetlights to leds with motion sensors. Leds use far less energy and turn on instantly, unlike the sodium lamps currently in use.
unfortunately that isn't quite right. low pressure sodium lamps used for street lights are still the most efficient available, but give no colour rendition. LED might be the most effecient white light source, but only by a fraction, if at all, when compared to gas discharge lamps.
And LED lights cost a LOT more. Just turn the lights OFF!
[quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alien12[/bold] wrote: Change all the streetlights to leds with motion sensors. Leds use far less energy and turn on instantly, unlike the sodium lamps currently in use.[/p][/quote]unfortunately that isn't quite right. low pressure sodium lamps used for street lights are still the most efficient available, but give no colour rendition. LED might be the most effecient white light source, but only by a fraction, if at all, when compared to gas discharge lamps.[/p][/quote]And LED lights cost a LOT more. Just turn the lights OFF! Fred the Phoenix

10:31am Wed 4 Dec 13

Fred the Phoenix says...

Nowthatsworthknowing wrote:
Without the obvious concerns of urban housing estates, becoming a possible muggers paradise, on the roads, will we see full beam drivers, blinding each other, as we all like to see ahead, further than those dipped headlights...
Then we will have to use out full/dip beam switches a bit more. People manage perfectly well in more rural areas where there are no lights, I know I used to live in such an area. How many people are out and about at three o'clock in the morning anyway? Lights out!
[quote][p][bold]Nowthatsworthknowing[/bold] wrote: Without the obvious concerns of urban housing estates, becoming a possible muggers paradise, on the roads, will we see full beam drivers, blinding each other, as we all like to see ahead, further than those dipped headlights...[/p][/quote]Then we will have to use out full/dip beam switches a bit more. People manage perfectly well in more rural areas where there are no lights, I know I used to live in such an area. How many people are out and about at three o'clock in the morning anyway? Lights out! Fred the Phoenix

6:52pm Wed 4 Dec 13

upset says...

MrFrogFace wrote:
upset wrote:
DB should check Furtherwick Road Christmas tree and street lights are on all day as well!!!
Pathetic !!
How can you compare LED xmas lights to street lights !!
DB supporter ?
[quote][p][bold]MrFrogFace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: DB should check Furtherwick Road Christmas tree and street lights are on all day as well!!![/p][/quote]Pathetic !! How can you compare LED xmas lights to street lights !![/p][/quote]DB supporter ? upset

8:25pm Wed 4 Dec 13

woolstone says...

I feel we are gradually going backwards to the Victorian Times on more than this issue. The council members of Essex County Council really do not have a clue what the public feel about the lights being turned off, but they will when we have to vote next time.
I feel we are gradually going backwards to the Victorian Times on more than this issue. The council members of Essex County Council really do not have a clue what the public feel about the lights being turned off, but they will when we have to vote next time. woolstone

9:17pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Cor Blimey says...

I don't understand what all the fuss is about, switch them off!
I don't understand what all the fuss is about, switch them off! Cor Blimey

7:23pm Thu 12 Dec 13

Fred the Phoenix says...

Why has my post been removed? Because i referred to Gobby Gandy? Some people have really thin skins, you should stick to the crossword dearie
Why has my post been removed? Because i referred to Gobby Gandy? Some people have really thin skins, you should stick to the crossword dearie Fred the Phoenix

8:05pm Thu 12 Dec 13

alien12 says...

Fred the Phoenix wrote:
Why has my post been removed? Because i referred to Gobby Gandy? Some people have really thin skins, you should stick to the crossword dearie
And LED lights cost a LOT more. Just turn the lights OFF!.
please explain.
[quote][p][bold]Fred the Phoenix[/bold] wrote: Why has my post been removed? Because i referred to Gobby Gandy? Some people have really thin skins, you should stick to the crossword dearie[/p][/quote]And LED lights cost a LOT more. Just turn the lights OFF!. please explain. alien12

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