Shoppers' fury over Southend street auction con

Shoppers' fury over Southend street auction con

Shoppers' fury over Southend street auction con

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ANGRY shoppers surrounded a town centre store to demand their money back after being caught out at a speed auction.

Bargain hunters turned up at the empty shop in Southend High Street hoping to get their hands on the latest gadgets and other gifts at knockdown prices.

But after being locked in the shop to buy the goods, they then tried to storm back in after finding laptops and games console boxes were full of books and bricks, while mobile phones were replaced with aftershave bottles full of water.

The shop was quickly closed and an unofficial bouncer prevented people from getting back in when they tried to complain.

Lailla Byford, 19, was working at Harry B’s Barbers, in Clifftown Road, and saw the drama unfold. She said: “From the outside, it looked ridiculous. They just had laminated signs of a picture of a laptop.

“It was rowdy. It calmed down sometime after 4pm and then some balding Asian man in his forties casually walked out.

“There were about six people involved in the operation.

“It was crazy. We thought we saw them afterwards laughing as they came out and got in a van. It’s daylight robbery.”

The deals were being struck sporadically throughout Saturday from about 11am until 4pm.

Witnesses claimed crowds of about 50 people tried to barge through the shop door and even climbed over a gate at the back of the premises to get their money back.

The few who were given refunds were allegedly paid in fake notes.

Lailla’s mum, Jo Byford, 44, who runs the barbers, said: “One of the guys in the shop even spoke to my other half in the pub and said they were going to come back on the Sunday, but Southend ‘wasn’t the place’ to do the deals.

“He blatantly admitted it was a scam. He said there was a thin line with Trading Standards and they were right up to the line.

“These people are blatantly stealing.

It doesn’t look good for a street that’s trying to trade.”

A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards.

A spokesman said those who had been mis-sold items should report it through the Citizens Advice consumer helpline on 03454 040506.

WHAT THEY SAID ON FACEBOOK

Readers who went on to the Echo’s Facebook page felt many shoppers deserved what they got.

SHARON SHARI DAVIS: If you’re going to try to get goods at dodgy prices, you’re going to get dodgy goods.

DEBBIE SPENCER: The police were there and the street rangers where warning people not to go in because it was a scam. An X Box for £25, that tells a story straight away.

PHOENIX TARJUN: The street rangers spent over two hours and spoke to hundreds of people to warn them of the scam this shop was running. If people didn’t take the advice, it’s not the police or street rangers’ fault.

SAM HALLEY: Bet they are laughing all the way to the bank now! Just shows the freeholders of these empty shops don’t care who they rent to and what they get up to, as long as the shops are not empty.

The newly-formed council needs to step in here and quickly!

DEBBIE SPENCER: I can’t believe people fell for this. I passed there a couple of times and it was packed out. As they say, if it's too good to be true!

BECKY MACLOUGHLIN: I saw people queuing out of the door.

JOHN HAMILTON: It’s not hard to part fools from their money, especially when the law stands by watching. The shops are allowed to steal from us and it’s a Trading Standards issue, yet if we tried stealing the same stuff we would be dragged out in handcuffs

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11:04am Thu 31 Jul 14

Russ13 says...

If it seems to good to be true, it normally is!

I'm not conding these crooks' activities but "buyer beware" should be remembered at all times, especially with a "shop" that appears overnight.
If it seems to good to be true, it normally is! I'm not conding these crooks' activities but "buyer beware" should be remembered at all times, especially with a "shop" that appears overnight. Russ13
  • Score: 16

11:05am Thu 31 Jul 14

Maya Pinnion says...

It's not a new thing is it.
It's not a new thing is it. Maya Pinnion
  • Score: 9

11:10am Thu 31 Jul 14

wobblybob says...

These sham flash sales have featured literally dozens of times on TV shows such as Watchdog & are frequently reported in the press. How can these people be so gullible? If an item sells via an online auction site for £200+ why would they be selling them from a shop in Southend for £50! As the old saying goes - if it seems to good to be true it probably is!
These sham flash sales have featured literally dozens of times on TV shows such as Watchdog & are frequently reported in the press. How can these people be so gullible? If an item sells via an online auction site for £200+ why would they be selling them from a shop in Southend for £50! As the old saying goes - if it seems to good to be true it probably is! wobblybob
  • Score: 15

12:49pm Thu 31 Jul 14

pembury53 says...

what a laugh ! one born every minute....
what a laugh ! one born every minute.... pembury53
  • Score: -4

12:56pm Thu 31 Jul 14

emcee says...

It is these gullable "customers" who will probably become future phone scam victims, also.
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Quote: "The few who were given refunds were allegedly paid in fake notes...
...A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards."
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The whole thing reeks of theft by deception so why is this incident a trading standards matter and not a police matter. Also, handling fake notes is most certainly a crime and even though it is only an allegation, this alone should prompt the police into investigating.
Essex police are a lazy, buck passing waste of space.
It is these gullable "customers" who will probably become future phone scam victims, also. - Quote: "The few who were given refunds were allegedly paid in fake notes... ...A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards." - The whole thing reeks of theft by deception so why is this incident a trading standards matter and not a police matter. Also, handling fake notes is most certainly a crime and even though it is only an allegation, this alone should prompt the police into investigating. Essex police are a lazy, buck passing waste of space. emcee
  • Score: 57

1:09pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Kim Gandy says...

emcee wrote:
It is these gullable "customers" who will probably become future phone scam victims, also.
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Quote: "The few who were given refunds were allegedly paid in fake notes...
...A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards."
-
The whole thing reeks of theft by deception so why is this incident a trading standards matter and not a police matter. Also, handling fake notes is most certainly a crime and even though it is only an allegation, this alone should prompt the police into investigating.
Essex police are a lazy, buck passing waste of space.
I hate t admit it but I particularly agree with your last line.

Have you written to the PCC Nick Alston. If not why not? We know he's useless but the more put him to work actually doing something, the better.
[quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: It is these gullable "customers" who will probably become future phone scam victims, also. - Quote: "The few who were given refunds were allegedly paid in fake notes... ...A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards." - The whole thing reeks of theft by deception so why is this incident a trading standards matter and not a police matter. Also, handling fake notes is most certainly a crime and even though it is only an allegation, this alone should prompt the police into investigating. Essex police are a lazy, buck passing waste of space.[/p][/quote]I hate t admit it but I particularly agree with your last line. Have you written to the PCC Nick Alston. If not why not? We know he's useless but the more put him to work actually doing something, the better. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 15

1:14pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Kim Gandy says...

"A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards."

As usual, pass it on to somebody else to deal with. Just like the caravans on the A130 that were left to the Fire Service to investigate.

And the lady who was mugged whilst in her buggy. The police couldn't even be raised for that incident or the traveller site/councillor episode earlier this week.

Tell me, what exactly DO the police think is a crime these days and what are they prepared to do about it?

I have once again asked Mr Chocolate Fireguard Alston this question. Let's see what answer I get this time.
"A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards." As usual, pass it on to somebody else to deal with. Just like the caravans on the A130 that were left to the Fire Service to investigate. And the lady who was mugged whilst in her buggy. The police couldn't even be raised for that incident or the traveller site/councillor episode earlier this week. Tell me, what exactly DO the police think is a crime these days and what are they prepared to do about it? I have once again asked Mr Chocolate Fireguard Alston this question. Let's see what answer I get this time. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 21

1:22pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Kim Gandy says...

....as for anybody who thought this looked like a good idea and particularly allowing themselves to be locked inside a shop, more fool you.
....as for anybody who thought this looked like a good idea and particularly allowing themselves to be locked inside a shop, more fool you. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 0

3:31pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Now listen for I have something to say says...

“Greed and gullibility are fertile ground for scammers to operate and make their illegal gains.
“As long as there are people with bad intention to cheat, aided with technology and those of low I.Q. who are easily willing to part with their money, on hopelessly ridiculous bargains, scamming will thrive,”
“Greed and gullibility are fertile ground for scammers to operate and make their illegal gains. “As long as there are people with bad intention to cheat, aided with technology and those of low I.Q. who are easily willing to part with their money, on hopelessly ridiculous bargains, scamming will thrive,” Now listen for I have something to say
  • Score: 9

3:32pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Now listen for I have something to say says...

pembury53 wrote:
what a laugh ! one born every minute....
Which is why they came to Southend
[quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: what a laugh ! one born every minute....[/p][/quote]Which is why they came to Southend Now listen for I have something to say
  • Score: 4

4:12pm Thu 31 Jul 14

CHRISTMAS CAROL says...

IT IS A POLICE MATTER and not chocolate policemen like community ones, how dare they stand by while poeple are being scamed like this* disgraceful!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT IS A POLICE MATTER and not chocolate policemen like community ones, how dare they stand by while poeple are being scamed like this* disgraceful!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CHRISTMAS CAROL
  • Score: 34

4:18pm Thu 31 Jul 14

sesibollox says...

CHRISTMAS CAROL wrote:
IT IS A POLICE MATTER and not chocolate policemen like community ones, how dare they stand by while poeple are being scamed like this* disgraceful!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ITS A MATTER FOR TRADING STANDARDS READ THE STORY WOMAN.
[quote][p][bold]CHRISTMAS CAROL[/bold] wrote: IT IS A POLICE MATTER and not chocolate policemen like community ones, how dare they stand by while poeple are being scamed like this* disgraceful!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]ITS A MATTER FOR TRADING STANDARDS READ THE STORY WOMAN. sesibollox
  • Score: -25

4:19pm Thu 31 Jul 14

CHRISTMAS CAROL says...

IT IS A POLICE MATTER maybe not the chocolate community officers but real policeman, who are ever absent these days., and open all day as well plenty of time to scramble the BLACK MARIA.
IT IS A POLICE MATTER maybe not the chocolate community officers but real policeman, who are ever absent these days., and open all day as well plenty of time to scramble the BLACK MARIA. CHRISTMAS CAROL
  • Score: 10

4:20pm Thu 31 Jul 14

CHRISTMAS CAROL says...

sesibollox wrote:
CHRISTMAS CAROL wrote:
IT IS A POLICE MATTER and not chocolate policemen like community ones, how dare they stand by while poeple are being scamed like this* disgraceful!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ITS A MATTER FOR TRADING STANDARDS READ THE STORY WOMAN.
I have read the story and you may find this hard to believe I dont agree with you
[quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CHRISTMAS CAROL[/bold] wrote: IT IS A POLICE MATTER and not chocolate policemen like community ones, how dare they stand by while poeple are being scamed like this* disgraceful!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]ITS A MATTER FOR TRADING STANDARDS READ THE STORY WOMAN.[/p][/quote]I have read the story and you may find this hard to believe I dont agree with you CHRISTMAS CAROL
  • Score: 19

4:37pm Thu 31 Jul 14

emcee says...

sesibollox wrote:
CHRISTMAS CAROL wrote:
IT IS A POLICE MATTER and not chocolate policemen like community ones, how dare they stand by while poeple are being scamed like this* disgraceful!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ITS A MATTER FOR TRADING STANDARDS READ THE STORY WOMAN.
Erm, Just because the police say it is does not mean it is so. Essex Police are well known for shirking responsibilities and will try all avenues to try and get out of taking on casework.
I supopose it is all down to crime figure manipulation. If Essex Police do not have to record a crime it is one crime they will not fail to solve. I suppose it is better not to have any crime recorded at all than to look like useless failures.
[quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CHRISTMAS CAROL[/bold] wrote: IT IS A POLICE MATTER and not chocolate policemen like community ones, how dare they stand by while poeple are being scamed like this* disgraceful!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]ITS A MATTER FOR TRADING STANDARDS READ THE STORY WOMAN.[/p][/quote]Erm, Just because the police say it is does not mean it is so. Essex Police are well known for shirking responsibilities and will try all avenues to try and get out of taking on casework. I supopose it is all down to crime figure manipulation. If Essex Police do not have to record a crime it is one crime they will not fail to solve. I suppose it is better not to have any crime recorded at all than to look like useless failures. emcee
  • Score: 21

6:33pm Thu 31 Jul 14

sesibollox says...

Breach of Facebook policies and the data protection act to publish peoples opinions in a newspaper comments page.
Readers who went on to the Echo’s Facebook page felt many shoppers deserved what they got.

SHARON SHARI DAVIS: If you’re going to try to get goods at dodgy prices, you’re going to get dodgy goods.

DEBBIE SPENCER: The police were there and the street rangers where warning people not to go in because it was a scam. An X Box for £25, that tells a story straight away.

PHOENIX TARJUN: The street rangers spent over two hours and spoke to hundreds of people to warn them of the scam this shop was running. If people didn’t take the advice, it’s not the police or street rangers’ fault.

SAM HALLEY: Bet they are laughing all the way to the bank now! Just shows the freeholders of these empty shops don’t care who they rent to and what they get up to, as long as the shops are not empty.

The newly-formed council needs to step in here and quickly!

DEBBIE SPENCER: I can’t believe people fell for this. I passed there a couple of times and it was packed out. As they say, if it's too good to be true!

BECKY MACLOUGHLIN: I saw people queuing out of the door.

JOHN HAMILTON: It’s not hard to part fools from their money, especially when the law stands by watching. The shops are allowed to steal from us and it’s a Trading Standards issue, yet if we tried stealing the same stuff we would be dragged out in handcuffs
Breach of Facebook policies and the data protection act to publish peoples opinions in a newspaper comments page. Readers who went on to the Echo’s Facebook page felt many shoppers deserved what they got. SHARON SHARI DAVIS: If you’re going to try to get goods at dodgy prices, you’re going to get dodgy goods. DEBBIE SPENCER: The police were there and the street rangers where warning people not to go in because it was a scam. An X Box for £25, that tells a story straight away. PHOENIX TARJUN: The street rangers spent over two hours and spoke to hundreds of people to warn them of the scam this shop was running. If people didn’t take the advice, it’s not the police or street rangers’ fault. SAM HALLEY: Bet they are laughing all the way to the bank now! Just shows the freeholders of these empty shops don’t care who they rent to and what they get up to, as long as the shops are not empty. The newly-formed council needs to step in here and quickly! DEBBIE SPENCER: I can’t believe people fell for this. I passed there a couple of times and it was packed out. As they say, if it's too good to be true! BECKY MACLOUGHLIN: I saw people queuing out of the door. JOHN HAMILTON: It’s not hard to part fools from their money, especially when the law stands by watching. The shops are allowed to steal from us and it’s a Trading Standards issue, yet if we tried stealing the same stuff we would be dragged out in handcuffs sesibollox
  • Score: -2

7:24pm Thu 31 Jul 14

ekcoanarak says...

emcee wrote:
It is these gullable "customers" who will probably become future phone scam victims, also.
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Quote: "The few who were given refunds were allegedly paid in fake notes...
...A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards."
-
The whole thing reeks of theft by deception so why is this incident a trading standards matter and not a police matter. Also, handling fake notes is most certainly a crime and even though it is only an allegation, this alone should prompt the police into investigating.
Essex police are a lazy, buck passing waste of space.
Report a crime to the police, or discuss it with your cat, the end result will be much the same.
[quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: It is these gullable "customers" who will probably become future phone scam victims, also. - Quote: "The few who were given refunds were allegedly paid in fake notes... ...A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards." - The whole thing reeks of theft by deception so why is this incident a trading standards matter and not a police matter. Also, handling fake notes is most certainly a crime and even though it is only an allegation, this alone should prompt the police into investigating. Essex police are a lazy, buck passing waste of space.[/p][/quote]Report a crime to the police, or discuss it with your cat, the end result will be much the same. ekcoanarak
  • Score: 22

7:35pm Thu 31 Jul 14

ThisYear says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
"A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards."

As usual, pass it on to somebody else to deal with. Just like the caravans on the A130 that were left to the Fire Service to investigate.

And the lady who was mugged whilst in her buggy. The police couldn't even be raised for that incident or the traveller site/councillor episode earlier this week.

Tell me, what exactly DO the police think is a crime these days and what are they prepared to do about it?

I have once again asked Mr Chocolate Fireguard Alston this question. Let's see what answer I get this time.
I wish they would put your big gob in handcuffs...you are a bore of massive proportions....just like your @ss.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: "A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards." As usual, pass it on to somebody else to deal with. Just like the caravans on the A130 that were left to the Fire Service to investigate. And the lady who was mugged whilst in her buggy. The police couldn't even be raised for that incident or the traveller site/councillor episode earlier this week. Tell me, what exactly DO the police think is a crime these days and what are they prepared to do about it? I have once again asked Mr Chocolate Fireguard Alston this question. Let's see what answer I get this time.[/p][/quote]I wish they would put your big gob in handcuffs...you are a bore of massive proportions....just like your @ss. ThisYear
  • Score: -14

7:51pm Thu 31 Jul 14

ThisYear says...

Imo, Gandy would of been took to the cleaners here...if she had two pennies to rub together that is...a bit of lying flattery by one of the scammers "Im sure this beautiful woman in a dress that really fits her, will buy this state of the art iPad tablet with all the accessories for £4.99"

And she would of been simpering with a face like a bruised pear while ordering 3...muggins!
Imo, Gandy would of been took to the cleaners here...if she had two pennies to rub together that is...a bit of lying flattery by one of the scammers "Im sure this beautiful woman in a dress that really fits her, will buy this state of the art iPad tablet with all the accessories for £4.99" And she would of been simpering with a face like a bruised pear while ordering 3...muggins! ThisYear
  • Score: -19

8:14pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Howard Cháse says...

You've got to laugh at the gullibility and greed of some people haven't you?

Like the first comment says. If something looks too good to be true it probably is.

Not the first time this trick has been played and it won't be the last.


Anyone fancy a game pea and cup and spot the lady?
You've got to laugh at the gullibility and greed of some people haven't you? Like the first comment says. If something looks too good to be true it probably is. Not the first time this trick has been played and it won't be the last. Anyone fancy a game pea and cup and spot the lady? Howard Cháse
  • Score: -2

9:28am Fri 1 Aug 14

Robin Reliant says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
emcee wrote:
It is these gullable "customers" who will probably become future phone scam victims, also.
-
Quote: "The few who were given refunds were allegedly paid in fake notes...
...A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards."
-
The whole thing reeks of theft by deception so why is this incident a trading standards matter and not a police matter. Also, handling fake notes is most certainly a crime and even though it is only an allegation, this alone should prompt the police into investigating.
Essex police are a lazy, buck passing waste of space.
I hate t admit it but I particularly agree with your last line.

Have you written to the PCC Nick Alston. If not why not? We know he's useless but the more put him to work actually doing something, the better.
I think he is busy with the lady that got hit by a travellers vehicle whilst she was trying to stop the unwanted getting onto private land and setting up camp a few days back the same lady that asked 2 cops nearby to do something but they choose to eat their kebab instead as it was lunch time.

well you can't do anymore that the street rangers did by warning people before they went in and parted with their money for a box with a brick in it, that will teach the grubby fingered bargain hunters as for the conmen well they are also grubby toads.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: It is these gullable "customers" who will probably become future phone scam victims, also. - Quote: "The few who were given refunds were allegedly paid in fake notes... ...A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards." - The whole thing reeks of theft by deception so why is this incident a trading standards matter and not a police matter. Also, handling fake notes is most certainly a crime and even though it is only an allegation, this alone should prompt the police into investigating. Essex police are a lazy, buck passing waste of space.[/p][/quote]I hate t admit it but I particularly agree with your last line. Have you written to the PCC Nick Alston. If not why not? We know he's useless but the more put him to work actually doing something, the better.[/p][/quote]I think he is busy with the lady that got hit by a travellers vehicle whilst she was trying to stop the unwanted getting onto private land and setting up camp a few days back the same lady that asked 2 cops nearby to do something but they choose to eat their kebab instead as it was lunch time. well you can't do anymore that the street rangers did by warning people before they went in and parted with their money for a box with a brick in it, that will teach the grubby fingered bargain hunters as for the conmen well they are also grubby toads. Robin Reliant
  • Score: -1

8:28pm Fri 1 Aug 14

ThisYear says...

Robin Reliant wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
emcee wrote:
It is these gullable "customers" who will probably become future phone scam victims, also.
-
Quote: "The few who were given refunds were allegedly paid in fake notes...
...A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards."
-
The whole thing reeks of theft by deception so why is this incident a trading standards matter and not a police matter. Also, handling fake notes is most certainly a crime and even though it is only an allegation, this alone should prompt the police into investigating.
Essex police are a lazy, buck passing waste of space.
I hate t admit it but I particularly agree with your last line.

Have you written to the PCC Nick Alston. If not why not? We know he's useless but the more put him to work actually doing something, the better.
I think he is busy with the lady that got hit by a travellers vehicle whilst she was trying to stop the unwanted getting onto private land and setting up camp a few days back the same lady that asked 2 cops nearby to do something but they choose to eat their kebab instead as it was lunch time.

well you can't do anymore that the street rangers did by warning people before they went in and parted with their money for a box with a brick in it, that will teach the grubby fingered bargain hunters as for the conmen well they are also grubby toads.
Was she hit by a vehicle?

It seems strange that someone can be 'hit by a vehicle' and not be injured or the police not pursuing it.

I wonder why she was interfering with peoples choice to set up on private land...land that wasn't hers.

What if the people in question were doing so to protest the lack of transit sites in the area...does her tenuous hold on office mean she can decide how people protest or even if they should be allowed to?

By taking the law into her own hands she should consider herself lucky SHE wasnt arrested.
[quote][p][bold]Robin Reliant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: It is these gullable "customers" who will probably become future phone scam victims, also. - Quote: "The few who were given refunds were allegedly paid in fake notes... ...A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards." - The whole thing reeks of theft by deception so why is this incident a trading standards matter and not a police matter. Also, handling fake notes is most certainly a crime and even though it is only an allegation, this alone should prompt the police into investigating. Essex police are a lazy, buck passing waste of space.[/p][/quote]I hate t admit it but I particularly agree with your last line. Have you written to the PCC Nick Alston. If not why not? We know he's useless but the more put him to work actually doing something, the better.[/p][/quote]I think he is busy with the lady that got hit by a travellers vehicle whilst she was trying to stop the unwanted getting onto private land and setting up camp a few days back the same lady that asked 2 cops nearby to do something but they choose to eat their kebab instead as it was lunch time. well you can't do anymore that the street rangers did by warning people before they went in and parted with their money for a box with a brick in it, that will teach the grubby fingered bargain hunters as for the conmen well they are also grubby toads.[/p][/quote]Was she hit by a vehicle? It seems strange that someone can be 'hit by a vehicle' and not be injured or the police not pursuing it. I wonder why she was interfering with peoples choice to set up on private land...land that wasn't hers. What if the people in question were doing so to protest the lack of transit sites in the area...does her tenuous hold on office mean she can decide how people protest or even if they should be allowed to? By taking the law into her own hands she should consider herself lucky SHE wasnt arrested. ThisYear
  • Score: -26

9:23pm Fri 1 Aug 14

John Right says...

ThisYear wrote:
Robin Reliant wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
emcee wrote:
It is these gullable "customers" who will probably become future phone scam victims, also.
-
Quote: "The few who were given refunds were allegedly paid in fake notes...
...A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards."
-
The whole thing reeks of theft by deception so why is this incident a trading standards matter and not a police matter. Also, handling fake notes is most certainly a crime and even though it is only an allegation, this alone should prompt the police into investigating.
Essex police are a lazy, buck passing waste of space.
I hate t admit it but I particularly agree with your last line.

Have you written to the PCC Nick Alston. If not why not? We know he's useless but the more put him to work actually doing something, the better.
I think he is busy with the lady that got hit by a travellers vehicle whilst she was trying to stop the unwanted getting onto private land and setting up camp a few days back the same lady that asked 2 cops nearby to do something but they choose to eat their kebab instead as it was lunch time.

well you can't do anymore that the street rangers did by warning people before they went in and parted with their money for a box with a brick in it, that will teach the grubby fingered bargain hunters as for the conmen well they are also grubby toads.
Was she hit by a vehicle?

It seems strange that someone can be 'hit by a vehicle' and not be injured or the police not pursuing it.

I wonder why she was interfering with peoples choice to set up on private land...land that wasn't hers.

What if the people in question were doing so to protest the lack of transit sites in the area...does her tenuous hold on office mean she can decide how people protest or even if they should be allowed to?

By taking the law into her own hands she should consider herself lucky SHE wasnt arrested.
I had thought of Gandy herself when I heard that a rather fuller opponent of the these traditional folk were again being targeted, for being on a piece of dis-used land, though UKIP have suffered of late, one left having been found guilty of fraud, whilst another thought it OK to drive whilst drunk..
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin Reliant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: It is these gullable "customers" who will probably become future phone scam victims, also. - Quote: "The few who were given refunds were allegedly paid in fake notes... ...A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards." - The whole thing reeks of theft by deception so why is this incident a trading standards matter and not a police matter. Also, handling fake notes is most certainly a crime and even though it is only an allegation, this alone should prompt the police into investigating. Essex police are a lazy, buck passing waste of space.[/p][/quote]I hate t admit it but I particularly agree with your last line. Have you written to the PCC Nick Alston. If not why not? We know he's useless but the more put him to work actually doing something, the better.[/p][/quote]I think he is busy with the lady that got hit by a travellers vehicle whilst she was trying to stop the unwanted getting onto private land and setting up camp a few days back the same lady that asked 2 cops nearby to do something but they choose to eat their kebab instead as it was lunch time. well you can't do anymore that the street rangers did by warning people before they went in and parted with their money for a box with a brick in it, that will teach the grubby fingered bargain hunters as for the conmen well they are also grubby toads.[/p][/quote]Was she hit by a vehicle? It seems strange that someone can be 'hit by a vehicle' and not be injured or the police not pursuing it. I wonder why she was interfering with peoples choice to set up on private land...land that wasn't hers. What if the people in question were doing so to protest the lack of transit sites in the area...does her tenuous hold on office mean she can decide how people protest or even if they should be allowed to? By taking the law into her own hands she should consider herself lucky SHE wasnt arrested.[/p][/quote]I had thought of Gandy herself when I heard that a rather fuller opponent of the these traditional folk were again being targeted, for being on a piece of dis-used land, though UKIP have suffered of late, one left having been found guilty of fraud, whilst another thought it OK to drive whilst drunk.. John Right
  • Score: -9

9:45pm Fri 1 Aug 14

ThisYear says...

John Right wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Robin Reliant wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
emcee wrote:
It is these gullable "customers" who will probably become future phone scam victims, also.
-
Quote: "The few who were given refunds were allegedly paid in fake notes...
...A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards."
-
The whole thing reeks of theft by deception so why is this incident a trading standards matter and not a police matter. Also, handling fake notes is most certainly a crime and even though it is only an allegation, this alone should prompt the police into investigating.
Essex police are a lazy, buck passing waste of space.
I hate t admit it but I particularly agree with your last line.

Have you written to the PCC Nick Alston. If not why not? We know he's useless but the more put him to work actually doing something, the better.
I think he is busy with the lady that got hit by a travellers vehicle whilst she was trying to stop the unwanted getting onto private land and setting up camp a few days back the same lady that asked 2 cops nearby to do something but they choose to eat their kebab instead as it was lunch time.

well you can't do anymore that the street rangers did by warning people before they went in and parted with their money for a box with a brick in it, that will teach the grubby fingered bargain hunters as for the conmen well they are also grubby toads.
Was she hit by a vehicle?

It seems strange that someone can be 'hit by a vehicle' and not be injured or the police not pursuing it.

I wonder why she was interfering with peoples choice to set up on private land...land that wasn't hers.

What if the people in question were doing so to protest the lack of transit sites in the area...does her tenuous hold on office mean she can decide how people protest or even if they should be allowed to?

By taking the law into her own hands she should consider herself lucky SHE wasnt arrested.
I had thought of Gandy herself when I heard that a rather fuller opponent of the these traditional folk were again being targeted, for being on a piece of dis-used land, though UKIP have suffered of late, one left having been found guilty of fraud, whilst another thought it OK to drive whilst drunk..
UKipper councillors are like people, who while holding onto a kite, have got blown 100's of feet into the air...you just know its only a matter of time before they fall and crash to earth...

Gandy is repulsed even by this repulsive party.
[quote][p][bold]John Right[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin Reliant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: It is these gullable "customers" who will probably become future phone scam victims, also. - Quote: "The few who were given refunds were allegedly paid in fake notes... ...A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards." - The whole thing reeks of theft by deception so why is this incident a trading standards matter and not a police matter. Also, handling fake notes is most certainly a crime and even though it is only an allegation, this alone should prompt the police into investigating. Essex police are a lazy, buck passing waste of space.[/p][/quote]I hate t admit it but I particularly agree with your last line. Have you written to the PCC Nick Alston. If not why not? We know he's useless but the more put him to work actually doing something, the better.[/p][/quote]I think he is busy with the lady that got hit by a travellers vehicle whilst she was trying to stop the unwanted getting onto private land and setting up camp a few days back the same lady that asked 2 cops nearby to do something but they choose to eat their kebab instead as it was lunch time. well you can't do anymore that the street rangers did by warning people before they went in and parted with their money for a box with a brick in it, that will teach the grubby fingered bargain hunters as for the conmen well they are also grubby toads.[/p][/quote]Was she hit by a vehicle? It seems strange that someone can be 'hit by a vehicle' and not be injured or the police not pursuing it. I wonder why she was interfering with peoples choice to set up on private land...land that wasn't hers. What if the people in question were doing so to protest the lack of transit sites in the area...does her tenuous hold on office mean she can decide how people protest or even if they should be allowed to? By taking the law into her own hands she should consider herself lucky SHE wasnt arrested.[/p][/quote]I had thought of Gandy herself when I heard that a rather fuller opponent of the these traditional folk were again being targeted, for being on a piece of dis-used land, though UKIP have suffered of late, one left having been found guilty of fraud, whilst another thought it OK to drive whilst drunk..[/p][/quote]UKipper councillors are like people, who while holding onto a kite, have got blown 100's of feet into the air...you just know its only a matter of time before they fall and crash to earth... Gandy is repulsed even by this repulsive party. ThisYear
  • Score: -11

7:35am Sat 2 Aug 14

CHRISTMAS CAROL says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
"A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards."

As usual, pass it on to somebody else to deal with. Just like the caravans on the A130 that were left to the Fire Service to investigate.

And the lady who was mugged whilst in her buggy. The police couldn't even be raised for that incident or the traveller site/councillor episode earlier this week.

Tell me, what exactly DO the police think is a crime these days and what are they prepared to do about it?

I have once again asked Mr Chocolate Fireguard Alston this question. Let's see what answer I get this time.
ITS FRAUD WHY CANT THE POLICE ACT**DEAR LITTLE DIDUMS
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: "A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards." As usual, pass it on to somebody else to deal with. Just like the caravans on the A130 that were left to the Fire Service to investigate. And the lady who was mugged whilst in her buggy. The police couldn't even be raised for that incident or the traveller site/councillor episode earlier this week. Tell me, what exactly DO the police think is a crime these days and what are they prepared to do about it? I have once again asked Mr Chocolate Fireguard Alston this question. Let's see what answer I get this time.[/p][/quote]ITS FRAUD WHY CANT THE POLICE ACT**DEAR LITTLE DIDUMS CHRISTMAS CAROL
  • Score: 16

9:22am Sat 2 Aug 14

Steve H says...

CHRISTMAS CAROL wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
"A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards."

As usual, pass it on to somebody else to deal with. Just like the caravans on the A130 that were left to the Fire Service to investigate.

And the lady who was mugged whilst in her buggy. The police couldn't even be raised for that incident or the traveller site/councillor episode earlier this week.

Tell me, what exactly DO the police think is a crime these days and what are they prepared to do about it?

I have once again asked Mr Chocolate Fireguard Alston this question. Let's see what answer I get this time.
ITS FRAUD WHY CANT THE POLICE ACT**DEAR LITTLE DIDUMS
No it isn't.

A few years ago, when a XBOX was impossible to get hold of before Christmas, there were many Ebay auctions for an XBOX, selling for £100's. However, if you read the description carefully you would realise you were bidding on an empty XBOX box.

There is no scam it is blatant stupidity of the buyer. This is how it worked in Southend, greed took over and the small print was missed, all those who bought items bought what was advertised.
[quote][p][bold]CHRISTMAS CAROL[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: "A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards." As usual, pass it on to somebody else to deal with. Just like the caravans on the A130 that were left to the Fire Service to investigate. And the lady who was mugged whilst in her buggy. The police couldn't even be raised for that incident or the traveller site/councillor episode earlier this week. Tell me, what exactly DO the police think is a crime these days and what are they prepared to do about it? I have once again asked Mr Chocolate Fireguard Alston this question. Let's see what answer I get this time.[/p][/quote]ITS FRAUD WHY CANT THE POLICE ACT**DEAR LITTLE DIDUMS[/p][/quote]No it isn't. A few years ago, when a XBOX was impossible to get hold of before Christmas, there were many Ebay auctions for an XBOX, selling for £100's. However, if you read the description carefully you would realise you were bidding on an empty XBOX box. There is no scam it is blatant stupidity of the buyer. This is how it worked in Southend, greed took over and the small print was missed, all those who bought items bought what was advertised. Steve H
  • Score: -8

11:14am Sat 2 Aug 14

chuckieboy says...

emcee wrote:
sesibollox wrote:
CHRISTMAS CAROL wrote:
IT IS A POLICE MATTER and not chocolate policemen like community ones, how dare they stand by while poeple are being scamed like this* disgraceful!!!!!!!!!



!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ITS A MATTER FOR TRADING STANDARDS READ THE STORY WOMAN.
Erm, Just because the police say it is does not mean it is so. Essex Police are well known for shirking responsibilities and will try all avenues to try and get out of taking on casework.
I supopose it is all down to crime figure manipulation. If Essex Police do not have to record a crime it is one crime they will not fail to solve. I suppose it is better not to have any crime recorded at all than to look like useless failures.
Never a truer word spoken Emcee. You hit the nail on the head. They are a useless bunch of village idiots!
[quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CHRISTMAS CAROL[/bold] wrote: IT IS A POLICE MATTER and not chocolate policemen like community ones, how dare they stand by while poeple are being scamed like this* disgraceful!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]ITS A MATTER FOR TRADING STANDARDS READ THE STORY WOMAN.[/p][/quote]Erm, Just because the police say it is does not mean it is so. Essex Police are well known for shirking responsibilities and will try all avenues to try and get out of taking on casework. I supopose it is all down to crime figure manipulation. If Essex Police do not have to record a crime it is one crime they will not fail to solve. I suppose it is better not to have any crime recorded at all than to look like useless failures.[/p][/quote]Never a truer word spoken Emcee. You hit the nail on the head. They are a useless bunch of village idiots! chuckieboy
  • Score: 2

3:50pm Sat 2 Aug 14

tezzason1 says...

This scam was common practice on the seafront in the sixties on a daily basis during the height of the tourist/day tripper season. They set up shop just a few metres down from the Palace Hotel and when the room was full of suckers, a large roller door would be pulled down to keep the people inside. The men( about half a dozen) were Londoners and worked the same scam in London on open streets. Genuine items( not in packaging) were knocked down to scammers posing as the public just for the first few minutes to get the ball rolling, The police showed no interest.
This scam was common practice on the seafront in the sixties on a daily basis during the height of the tourist/day tripper season. They set up shop just a few metres down from the Palace Hotel and when the room was full of suckers, a large roller door would be pulled down to keep the people inside. The men( about half a dozen) were Londoners and worked the same scam in London on open streets. Genuine items( not in packaging) were knocked down to scammers posing as the public just for the first few minutes to get the ball rolling, The police showed no interest. tezzason1
  • Score: 4

2:05am Sun 3 Aug 14

Alekhine says...

ThisYear wrote:
John Right wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Robin Reliant wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
emcee wrote:
It is these gullable "customers" who will probably become future phone scam victims, also.
-
Quote: "The few who were given refunds were allegedly paid in fake notes...
...A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards."
-
The whole thing reeks of theft by deception so why is this incident a trading standards matter and not a police matter. Also, handling fake notes is most certainly a crime and even though it is only an allegation, this alone should prompt the police into investigating.
Essex police are a lazy, buck passing waste of space.
I hate t admit it but I particularly agree with your last line.

Have you written to the PCC Nick Alston. If not why not? We know he's useless but the more put him to work actually doing something, the better.
I think he is busy with the lady that got hit by a travellers vehicle whilst she was trying to stop the unwanted getting onto private land and setting up camp a few days back the same lady that asked 2 cops nearby to do something but they choose to eat their kebab instead as it was lunch time.

well you can't do anymore that the street rangers did by warning people before they went in and parted with their money for a box with a brick in it, that will teach the grubby fingered bargain hunters as for the conmen well they are also grubby toads.
Was she hit by a vehicle?

It seems strange that someone can be 'hit by a vehicle' and not be injured or the police not pursuing it.

I wonder why she was interfering with peoples choice to set up on private land...land that wasn't hers.

What if the people in question were doing so to protest the lack of transit sites in the area...does her tenuous hold on office mean she can decide how people protest or even if they should be allowed to?

By taking the law into her own hands she should consider herself lucky SHE wasnt arrested.
I had thought of Gandy herself when I heard that a rather fuller opponent of the these traditional folk were again being targeted, for being on a piece of dis-used land, though UKIP have suffered of late, one left having been found guilty of fraud, whilst another thought it OK to drive whilst drunk..
UKipper councillors are like people, who while holding onto a kite, have got blown 100's of feet into the air...you just know its only a matter of time before they fall and crash to earth...

Gandy is repulsed even by this repulsive party.
As successful Tory government is the only way that UKIP might crash, you had better get yourself to Tory HQ and sign up.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John Right[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin Reliant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: It is these gullable "customers" who will probably become future phone scam victims, also. - Quote: "The few who were given refunds were allegedly paid in fake notes... ...A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards." - The whole thing reeks of theft by deception so why is this incident a trading standards matter and not a police matter. Also, handling fake notes is most certainly a crime and even though it is only an allegation, this alone should prompt the police into investigating. Essex police are a lazy, buck passing waste of space.[/p][/quote]I hate t admit it but I particularly agree with your last line. Have you written to the PCC Nick Alston. If not why not? We know he's useless but the more put him to work actually doing something, the better.[/p][/quote]I think he is busy with the lady that got hit by a travellers vehicle whilst she was trying to stop the unwanted getting onto private land and setting up camp a few days back the same lady that asked 2 cops nearby to do something but they choose to eat their kebab instead as it was lunch time. well you can't do anymore that the street rangers did by warning people before they went in and parted with their money for a box with a brick in it, that will teach the grubby fingered bargain hunters as for the conmen well they are also grubby toads.[/p][/quote]Was she hit by a vehicle? It seems strange that someone can be 'hit by a vehicle' and not be injured or the police not pursuing it. I wonder why she was interfering with peoples choice to set up on private land...land that wasn't hers. What if the people in question were doing so to protest the lack of transit sites in the area...does her tenuous hold on office mean she can decide how people protest or even if they should be allowed to? By taking the law into her own hands she should consider herself lucky SHE wasnt arrested.[/p][/quote]I had thought of Gandy herself when I heard that a rather fuller opponent of the these traditional folk were again being targeted, for being on a piece of dis-used land, though UKIP have suffered of late, one left having been found guilty of fraud, whilst another thought it OK to drive whilst drunk..[/p][/quote]UKipper councillors are like people, who while holding onto a kite, have got blown 100's of feet into the air...you just know its only a matter of time before they fall and crash to earth... Gandy is repulsed even by this repulsive party.[/p][/quote]As successful Tory government is the only way that UKIP might crash, you had better get yourself to Tory HQ and sign up. Alekhine
  • Score: 0

1:34pm Sun 3 Aug 14

ThisYear says...

Alekhine wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
John Right wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Robin Reliant wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
emcee wrote:
It is these gullable "customers" who will probably become future phone scam victims, also.
-
Quote: "The few who were given refunds were allegedly paid in fake notes...
...A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards."
-
The whole thing reeks of theft by deception so why is this incident a trading standards matter and not a police matter. Also, handling fake notes is most certainly a crime and even though it is only an allegation, this alone should prompt the police into investigating.
Essex police are a lazy, buck passing waste of space.
I hate t admit it but I particularly agree with your last line.

Have you written to the PCC Nick Alston. If not why not? We know he's useless but the more put him to work actually doing something, the better.
I think he is busy with the lady that got hit by a travellers vehicle whilst she was trying to stop the unwanted getting onto private land and setting up camp a few days back the same lady that asked 2 cops nearby to do something but they choose to eat their kebab instead as it was lunch time.

well you can't do anymore that the street rangers did by warning people before they went in and parted with their money for a box with a brick in it, that will teach the grubby fingered bargain hunters as for the conmen well they are also grubby toads.
Was she hit by a vehicle?

It seems strange that someone can be 'hit by a vehicle' and not be injured or the police not pursuing it.

I wonder why she was interfering with peoples choice to set up on private land...land that wasn't hers.

What if the people in question were doing so to protest the lack of transit sites in the area...does her tenuous hold on office mean she can decide how people protest or even if they should be allowed to?

By taking the law into her own hands she should consider herself lucky SHE wasnt arrested.
I had thought of Gandy herself when I heard that a rather fuller opponent of the these traditional folk were again being targeted, for being on a piece of dis-used land, though UKIP have suffered of late, one left having been found guilty of fraud, whilst another thought it OK to drive whilst drunk..
UKipper councillors are like people, who while holding onto a kite, have got blown 100's of feet into the air...you just know its only a matter of time before they fall and crash to earth...

Gandy is repulsed even by this repulsive party.
As successful Tory government is the only way that UKIP might crash, you had better get yourself to Tory HQ and sign up.
There will be a labour government come the next election...which means the Tory's and their more blatant sub-party the UKIP will be fighting each other like scabby rats in a brown envelope.

Not that I feel the Labour lot will be much better, but they will reverse some of the damage caused by the tories..who incidentally despise those who vote for them more than they despise those who dont..
[quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John Right[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin Reliant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: It is these gullable "customers" who will probably become future phone scam victims, also. - Quote: "The few who were given refunds were allegedly paid in fake notes... ...A police spokesman said officers had attended after exchanges became heated. They passed on the complaints to Trading Standards." - The whole thing reeks of theft by deception so why is this incident a trading standards matter and not a police matter. Also, handling fake notes is most certainly a crime and even though it is only an allegation, this alone should prompt the police into investigating. Essex police are a lazy, buck passing waste of space.[/p][/quote]I hate t admit it but I particularly agree with your last line. Have you written to the PCC Nick Alston. If not why not? We know he's useless but the more put him to work actually doing something, the better.[/p][/quote]I think he is busy with the lady that got hit by a travellers vehicle whilst she was trying to stop the unwanted getting onto private land and setting up camp a few days back the same lady that asked 2 cops nearby to do something but they choose to eat their kebab instead as it was lunch time. well you can't do anymore that the street rangers did by warning people before they went in and parted with their money for a box with a brick in it, that will teach the grubby fingered bargain hunters as for the conmen well they are also grubby toads.[/p][/quote]Was she hit by a vehicle? It seems strange that someone can be 'hit by a vehicle' and not be injured or the police not pursuing it. I wonder why she was interfering with peoples choice to set up on private land...land that wasn't hers. What if the people in question were doing so to protest the lack of transit sites in the area...does her tenuous hold on office mean she can decide how people protest or even if they should be allowed to? By taking the law into her own hands she should consider herself lucky SHE wasnt arrested.[/p][/quote]I had thought of Gandy herself when I heard that a rather fuller opponent of the these traditional folk were again being targeted, for being on a piece of dis-used land, though UKIP have suffered of late, one left having been found guilty of fraud, whilst another thought it OK to drive whilst drunk..[/p][/quote]UKipper councillors are like people, who while holding onto a kite, have got blown 100's of feet into the air...you just know its only a matter of time before they fall and crash to earth... Gandy is repulsed even by this repulsive party.[/p][/quote]As successful Tory government is the only way that UKIP might crash, you had better get yourself to Tory HQ and sign up.[/p][/quote]There will be a labour government come the next election...which means the Tory's and their more blatant sub-party the UKIP will be fighting each other like scabby rats in a brown envelope. Not that I feel the Labour lot will be much better, but they will reverse some of the damage caused by the tories..who incidentally despise those who vote for them more than they despise those who dont.. ThisYear
  • Score: -5

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